Catholics, Liberal and Conservative

I definitely do agree with most of what Emily says in her post–”Two Words Catholics Need to Stop Using . . . Like Now.”  And I definitely do not want to get into a game of “bait the redhead.”  Nevertheless, I am hesitant to swear off all use of the words “conservative” and “liberal” as descriptors of different kinds of Catholics.  Despite all the real dangers they involve, they seem useful in some ways.

Emily is right-on in saying that the terms sow confusion when they are used in relation to the essentials of the Catholic faith.  As she rightly notes, liberalism and conservatism are dispositions toward change, and the essentials of the faith don’t change.  A Catholic who supports, say, same-sex marriage or abortion is not a liberal Catholic but a dissenting Catholic or a confused Catholic, or something like that.

Nevertheless, there are areas of life that are subject to change, that are not as crucial as the faith itself, but are nevertheless important and command our attention.  And a person can be a very faithful Catholic, and, on top of that, hold opinions on these questions that seem liberal or conservative by some common understanding.  This possibility arises 1) in relation to matters that are mostly beyond the scope of the faith, 2) in relation to matters where the faith interacts with political questions without determining them, and 3) even in relation to the life of the Church (although not the deposit of the faith).

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First, there are some things on which the Church has no teaching, but that nevertheless have to be decided.  One example might be health care.  A person might be in favor of a single payer health care system, where the government is the single-payer–basically, socialized medicine.  Another person might instead believe in a free market in health care, with only the most minimal governmental regulations.  And both of these people could be perfectly faithful Catholics, since the Church has very little to say about health care, and most of what it does have to say concerns ends on which everybody agrees, and not much the (disputable) means to those ends.  But it would be very tempting to call a devout Catholic who supports socialized medicine a “liberal Catholic,” and to call a devout Catholic who supports a free market in health care a “conservative Catholic.”

If we are careful with the context, these terms seem reasonable.  They are drawn from different realms, faith and politics, and then combined, which is just the source of the confusion about which Emily complains.  On the other hand, the combination of them is not pointless, since they are being used to describe a person who is both a Catholic and a citizen–a person who has to attend to both realms and who has an identity in relation to both realms.  Again, if we use them with proper care–which I admit is not often the case with the mainstream, non-Catholic media–they might be useful.

Second, there are issues where Catholic teaching touches more directly on politics, although in such a way as to still leave some room for disagreement.  For example, it is standard, longstanding Catholic teaching that homosexual acts are immoral.  It used to be the case that such acts were prohibited and punished by the civil law.  A person could be a faithful Catholic, accepting the Church’s teaching that such acts are immoral, and nevertheless think that such laws are too punitive or too intrusive, and therefore be in favor of repealing them.  On the other hand, one could also agree with the Church’s teaching on the immorality of homosexual acts, and think that laws prohibiting them should be maintained as a way of educating the culture about the true nature of human sexuality.  But, here again, it would be tempting to call the first person a “liberal Catholic” and the second one a “conservative Catholic.”  And in this case the terms are even more suited to the occasion, because the first position is in favor of a certain loosening of discipline while the second is in favor of maintaining what had traditionally existed–and both positions are possible for a Catholic.

Third and finally, there are some matters that do not pertain to the deposit of faith, but that do have to do with the life of the Church, and that are subject to change–and in relation to which one could be a liberal or conservative.  Take the matter of Church discipline with regard to abstinence from meat.  The Church used to require the faithful to abstain from meat on every Friday.  Now it requires it only during Fridays in Lent.  A faithful Catholic could think that the requirement should be lifted entirely, and that each individual should be allowed to decide when to abstain from meat.  Another faithful Catholic might think the Church would be better served if we went back to the old discipline.  As long as they accept the Church’s authority to decide the question, these people are perfectly free to hold these opposite opinions.  But, again, it would be hard not to describe the first as a liberal–seeking to liberate from restraints, but within the bounds set by the Church’s teaching–and the second a conservative–seeking to preserve an old discipline, but one that the Church admittedly has a right to change.

So I’m a little conflicted.  Emily is right that the terms often cause confusion, but it looks to me that there is a certain usefulness in them that would be lost if we gave them up altogether.

 

 

 

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13 thoughts on “Catholics, Liberal and Conservative

  1. Teresa Vandal says:

    I think here is a good point to remind everyone of the phrase that “the truth is always somewhere in the middle…” Though Pope Francis might have used such words as “conservative” and truth be told honestly there is nothing wrong with such words; in this country people in general have twisted such words to fit their own personal interpretations. My own thoughts are that if people are going to continue to use them, then maybe they should do so with a stronger, more truthful idea of what those words mean, not just written down, but what they mean to morals and Catholic faith. In other words when they are told not to use the words they should realize it is not because of the definition itself, but what it means in their own hearts. Let them do so but with the understanding that really being Catholic means to know Abortion is against what the faith is all about… I think that is maybe where we should be directing ourselves to…

  2. Janet O'Connor says:

    Excuse me but did Pope Francis say himself in one of his three interviews that he did not want to be what he called an Archconservative? He is using the term himself so why can’t anybody else? The pope has been thought of as a moderate compared to the last two pope’s before him.

  3. Ronald Sagle says:

    I think Catholics should embrace the conservative view, because Republicans and Democrats that believe in conservative values accept base Catholic core beliefs and Jesus’s loving values.

    1. Ronald Sagle says:

      Conservative vs. Liberal views

      Conservative Political Views: Prefer smaller government, less regulation, most services provided by the private sector in a FREE market, and a literal interpretation of the Constitution.

      Liberal Political views: Prefer more regulation and services like FREE universal health care provided by the government to all citizens.

      Conservative Economic Views: Government should tax LESS and spend LESS. Cutting spending to BALANCE THE BUDGET should be the priority. Higher income earners should have an incentive to invest (credits). CHARITY PROVIDES the responsibility to the poor and provides help to the less fortunate.

      Liberal Economic Views: Government (TAX PAYERS) should PROVIDE more services to the less fortunate (like health care) and increase taxes if necessary. High-income earners should pay a larger percentage of their income as taxes.

      Conservative Social Views: Opposed to gay marriage, abortion and embryonic stem cell research. Support the right to bear arms with no restrictions, death penalty, and SELF-responsibility as a moral individual.

      Liberal Social Views: Gay couples to get equal rights like everyone else (e.g. marriage); abortion (murder) should be legal. Support embryonic stem cell research. Support restrictions and regulation around the right to bear arms.

      Conservative Personal Responsibility views: Individuals should exercise personal responsibility and it is the government’s role to hold them accountable even with severe penalties. Laws enacted to reflect the best interest of the society as a whole.

      Liberal Personal Responsibility Views: The people should look to the government to provide a structure (EVERYTHING). Laws enacted to protect every individual for an equal society sometimes at the EXPENSE of ECONOMIC FREEDOM if necessary.

      Conservative views are opposite liberal views,

      So what type of person do you want to be LIBERAL or CONSERVATIVE?

  4. GREG SMITH says:

    When I find a need to further describe myself as a Catholic, I say “mainstream Catholic.”

  5. Will says:

    Pope Francis has been called a Marxist by one well known non-Catholic. I am not sure we can stop the labels. It is best to read much in the blogs, etc. with a grain of salt.

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