How do you say, “Jesus Christ is Lord”?

"When I am lifted up from the earth I shall draw all men to myself." (John 12:32)

In the liturgical calendar of 1962 the Feast of Christ the King was assigned to the final Sunday of October. The feast was established in 1925 by Pope Pius XI as a response to the rising tide of secularism. The inhuman pall of atheistic ideologies that would see the murder of hundreds of millions over the next century—all in the name of “progress”—was spreading like aggressive cancer in the wake of the Great War. Pius XI wished to remind the faithful, through an annual feast, that Jesus Christ is Lord and King over all time, all hearts, all truth; no earthly government could usurp his dominion over all human hearts.

Here in Steubenville, the main chapel at Franciscan University is named and dedicated in honor of Christ the King. Today’s 4 p.m. Mass will be celebrated in the Extraordinary Form, making it the patronal feast of our chapel. Accordingly, we will mark the occasion with a Solemn High Mass.

Fitting, I think, that the second-to-last Sunday before our election day should invite us to recall that Jesus Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords. He is the Alpha and the Omega, through Whom all things were made and without Whom nothing was made; who came unto His own, who received Him not, but to as many as received Him, to them He gave eternal life. He who, as scion of David, proclaimed the kingdom of God not as an earthly kingdom of armies and borders, but as a spiritual kingdom of truth and love that holds dominion over every human heart. He who reigned from His throne, winning his people to Himself by being nailed to the cross, a crown of thorns on His head, the derision of the mobs before Him, offering His life, His flesh, His precious blood, His everything as an offering of love and peace.

“Because of this, God highly exalted him and bestowed upon him the name above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every head shall bow, every knee shall bend, and every tongue profess, to the glory of God the Father, that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!”

But there is more to it than merely saying “Lord, lord,” for even the demons recognize that He is Lord, and they shudder. If you profess with your tongue but do not submit with your heart, do not live your life accordingly, what good is it?

And consider the nature of Christ’s kingship. When questioned directly about his kingship by Pontius Pilate Jesus responded, “Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end have I been born, and to this end am I come into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.” (John 18:37) He did not directly respond, “Yes, I am a king.” Perhaps because the kingship Pilate meant—that of a political ruler of a geographic territory—is not the kingship that Christ possesses. His response was meant to prevent confusion.

If I may be so bold, I propose this restating of Christ’s response: “You say I am a ‘king,’ but my dominion is not what you are thinking of. My dominion is one of timeless Truth that binds all persons together, regardless of their location in time and space, if only they listen to the words I speak to them.”

Pilate’s response lends credence to this interpretation: “What is truth?” Or, “Truth? Who cares about ‘truth.’ I have the power, regardless of what is ‘true,’ to have you released or crucified.”

There, however, is the cross-over into our own times and activities. Christ is the king of all time and space by being the Lord of truth, but what good is truth if it is not observed in activity. We are talking here about the kingship of Christ and not merely his directives on living a good life, so we must consider the import of Christ’s kingship of Truth on our political activity.

We have an obligation to bring truth to bear in our votes, voting to advance the cause of truth and goodness in society. Voting for candidates who, both, will move our civil laws in the direction of truth and goodness and who have a real shot at winning their election. We do no good for the advancement of good and moral laws if we vote for someone with no chance of winning, regardless of their positions. If a candidate is available who both has a chance to win and also will move us in a better direction, especially if all other candidates with a chance to win are morally reprehensible, then it behooves us to vote for that candidate.

In 2005, Archbishop Charles Chaput, then of Denver, spoke at the National Catholic Prayer Breakfast on this same theme—his speech was stirring then, with the events of the last few years it is downright alarming now.

He spoke on the statement in St. Paul’s First Letter to the Corinthians, “No one can say ‘Jesus is Lord,’ except by the Holy Spirit.” His text is so tight but simple that summary and commentary is useless; I’ll simply post it here:

I grew up in Concordia, Kansas. It’s a typical small farming community of less than 7,000 people. But in those days Concordia was also the hometown of Senator Frank Carlson, who was a major player in Congress. So it wasn’t unusual for people in Concordia to think they had something important to say about government affairs and life in Washington, DC.

That’s the way it should be. That’s what the Founders of our country intended. All of us, no matter how little we are, have a voice in our nation’s public life and a major part to play.

Additionally, Catholics see politics as part of the history of salvation. For us, no one is a minor actor in that drama. Each person is important. And one of the most important duties we have is to use our gifts in every way possible for the glory of God and for the common good. That’s why Catholics and other Christians have always taken an active role in public life. What we believe about God shapes how we think about men and women. It also shapes what we do about promoting human dignity.

Today’s national discussion about religion and politics is sometimes so very strange. If God is the cen- ter of our lives, then of course that fact will influence our behavior, including our political decisions. That’s natural and healthy. What’s unnatural and unhealthy is the kind of public square where religious faith is seen as unwelcome and dangerous. But that seems to be exactly what some people want: a public square stripped of God and stripped of religious faith.

Our duty, if we’re serious about being Catholics, is to not let that happen. But our work as citizens does- n’t end there. Our bigger task is to help renew American public life by committing ourselves ever more deeply to our Catholic faith — and acting like we really mean it.

Catholics spent the first 200 years of our nation’s life trying to fit in and be accepted. Well, congratu- lations, we did it. We made it. We’ve arrived. But we should remember St. Paul’s words: “Let him who boasts, boast of the Lord” (2 Cor 10:17).

Have we really examined the cost of our fitting in? Since the 1960s, many American Catholics have been acting like we’re lucky just to be tolerated in the public square. In other words, we’d better not be too Catholic or somebody will be offended. That’s a mistake. It’s a recipe for losing our faith and throwing away any hope for a national political discourse based on conviction. It’s also important to notice that most of today’s anti-Catholic prejudice in the public square is different from the past. It doesn’t come from other religious believers. It comes from people who don’t want any religious influ- ence in public debates.That’s not pluralism. It’s not democracy. Democracy and pluralism depend on people of conviction fight- ing for what they believe through public debate – peacefully, legally, charitably and justly; but also vig- orously and without excuses. Divorcing our personal convictions from our public choices and actions is not “good manners.” On the contrary, it can be a very serious kind of theft from the moral treasury of the nation, because the most precious thing anyone can bring to any political conversation is an hon- est witness to what he or she really believes.

This applies to elected officials. It applies to voters. It applies to you and me. Belief in God has pro- foundly shaped what Americans believe about human dignity; the law; the common good; and justice. To cut God out of the public square is to cut the head and heart from our public life.

What we really believe, we conform our lives to. And if we don’t conform our lives to what we claim to believe, then we’re living a lie. When public officials claim to be “Catholic” but then say they can’t offer their beliefs about the sanctity of the human person as the basis of law, it always means one of two things. They’re either very confused, or they’re very evasive. All law is the imposition of somebody’s beliefs on somebody else. That’s exactly the reason we have debates, and elections, and Congress – to turn the struggle of ideas and moral convictions into laws that guide our common life.

Last Sunday we celebrated Pentecost, which is the birthday of the Church. In Catholic churches around the world, lectors read the following passage from St. Paul’s First Letter to the Corinthians: “No one can say ‘Jesus is Lord,’ except by the Holy Spirit.”

Now, that may sound like the right way to read it, but it’s wrong. That passage should really be read this way: “No one can say ‘Jesus is Lord!’ except by the Holy Spirit.” It’s the fire of the Holy Spirit in our hearts that enables us to make this profession of faith; that gives us the kind of energy and zeal to live our lives based on our faith in Jesus Christ.

We need to understand that in the early Church, those words – “Jesus is Lord” – were a political state- ment. The emperor claimed to be Lord both in the private and public lives of the citizens of the empire. When Christians proclaimed Jesus as Lord, they were proclaiming the centrality of Jesus not only in their personal lives, but in their public lives and their decision-making as well. That took real courage. And it had huge consequences for their lives. Jesus was hung upon the cross because of his claim of Lordship. Christianity was illegal for the first 250 years of the Church’s life because Christians pro- claimed, “Jesus is Lord.”

Americans re-elected President Bush because most voters saw him, and see him, as a man of dedica- tion and a leader deserving of our respect — but he is not “Lord.” Our political parties – whether Democratic or Republican — are not “Lord.” Congress is not “Lord.” The Supreme Court is not “Lord.” And neither are we “Lord”; nor our spouse or friends or possessions or talents. None of these people or things is Lord. Only God is God, and only Jesus Christ is Lord. And Christ’s relationship with each of us as individuals, and all of us as the believing Catholic community, should be the driving force of our personal lives and for all of our public witness – including our political witness.

“God” need not be on our lips every minute of every day. But He should be in our hearts from the moment we wake, to the moment we sleep. Only Jesus is Lord. The Church belongs to Him; not to us, but to Him. And there’s no way — no way – that we should ever allow ourselves to be driven from the public square by those who want someone else, or something else, to be Lord.

St Augustine, who had such a deep influence on the mind of our new Holy Father, once wrote that, “Hope has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are.” Are we angry enough about what’s wrong with the world — the killing of millions of unborn children through abortion; the neglect of the poor and the elderly; the mistreatment of immigrants in our midst; the abuse of science in embryonic stem cell research? Do we really have the courage of our convictions to change those things?

The opposite of hope is cynicism, and cynicism also has two daughters. Their names are indifference and cowardice. In renewing ourselves in our faith, what Catholics need to change most urgently is the habit and rhetoric of cowardice we find in our own personal lives, in our national political life, and some- times even within the Church herself.

Last Sunday we celebrated Pentecost. This coming Sunday we celebrate the feast of the Holy Trinity. Every year during this week between Pentecost and Trinity Sunday, I reflect on what the Church means when she talks about the season of “ordinary time.” There’s a spot just west of Denver as you descend out of the Rocky Mountains where the mountains suddenly stop, and the horizon opens up, and you gaze out on the beginning of the Great Plains – a thousand miles of flatland between Denver and the Mississippi River.

It reminds me of where we spend most of our lives. Not in the mountains, but on the plains – raising families, doing our jobs, making the daily choices that shape the world around us. Ordinary time is the space God gives to each of us to make a difference — between the past and the future, between Pentecost and Jesus’ Second Coming.

What we do with that ordinary time – in our personal choices and in our public actions — matters eter- nally. Solzhenitsyn once said that “the line separating good and evil runs not through states, nor between classes, nor even between political parties, but right through the center of each human heart, and every human heart.”

Renewing our hearts — that’s where we begin. Renewing the world – that’s our goal. Reclaiming the fire and courage of Pentecost – that’s how we’ll get there. Say it, and mean it, and live it: Only God is God, and only Jesus is Lord. When our actions finally follow our words, then so will our nation, and so will the world.

Note, he did not extol President Bush as the perfect candidate or as the Lord’s representative on earth. He said Bush was reelected because he is “a man of dedication deserving our respect.” I believe that this time around the choice is even more stark, and clear, than it was in 2004. The stakes are higher. The problems and fissures, deeper. Neither candidate is the candidate “of God,” but one clearly desires to lead in a direction of respect for life and liberty while the other supports abortion-on-demand.

So then the question each of us must ask, then, is, “how do you say ‘Jesus is Lord’”? Do you mutter it into your sleeve lest someone hear? Do you follow it up with “, but…”? With a roll of the eyes? “Personally opposed, but…”?

Or does it have an exclamation point? With a heart afire with love for your fellow man? With a determined and unflinching firmness? With a compassion for others and a desire to share the glory of the kingship of Christ with them?

And how will it affect your vote?

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70 thoughts on “How do you say, “Jesus Christ is Lord”?

  1. John son of John says:

    PRAISED BE JESUS CHRIST
    NOW AND FOREVER
    HE IS RISEN

  2. Quas Primas says:

    WOW – did you miss what the Archbishop was saying completely. His comment were more in line with Quas Primas; “This kingdom is spiritual and is concerned with spiritual things. That this is so the above quotations from Scripture amply prove, and Christ by his own action confirms it. On many occasions, when the Jews and even the Apostles wrongly supposed that the Messiah would restore the liberties and the kingdom of Israel, he repelled and denied such a suggestion. When the populace thronged around him in admiration and would have acclaimed him King, he shrank from the honor and sought safety in flight. Before the Roman magistrate he declared that his kingdom was not of this world. The gospels present this kingdom as one which men prepare to enter by penance, and cannot actually enter except by faith and by baptism, which, though an external rite, signifies and produces an interior regeneration. This kingdom is opposed to none other than to that of Satan and to the power of darkness. It demands of its subjects a spirit of detachment from riches and earthly things, and a spirit of gentleness. They must hunger and thirst after justice, and more than this, they must deny themselves and carry the cross.”
    Please do not Mock Christ the King by suggesting that this doctrine has anything to do with your sumation. Please let Catholicism be Catholic and not Republican. You miss the whole point.

  3. Peter says:

    By not voting for someone whose religion denies Jesus Christ is God.

    1. Randall says:

      Like 0bama the Muslim?

      1. Peter says:

        Like Romney the Mormon High Priest who believes he will be a God.

        1. Peter says:

          But I like Harry Reid, another Mormon. I have no problem with him because he is a Liberal Mormon and a Democrat. There is a difference.

          1. Peter says:

            He’s not running for President. Did you know Romney profited over 49 million dollars when Bain sold it’s interest in Steriscyle, a abortion medical waste business. Did you know while in France draft dodging in 1968 Romney was declared dead from a head wound after a car accident by a police officer at the scene and he wrote “He is dead” on his passport. Romney lied about it and falsely blamed a catholic priest for causing the accident that also killed a woman who was with him.

          2. Peter says:

            The Senate makes and votes on laws. Reid has a very powerful role in our government. Reid is also a blatant and slanderous liar. Reid is the Mormon High Priest who believes he will be a God. He speaks directly into the ear of Obama.

          3. Peter says:

            You think this is a game by continually mocking me. Fine, I’ll leave this place but be warned Romney has ruinous plans for The United States of America, The Catholic Church and the World.

          4. John son of John says:

            Y’all are not mocking you just trying to save you from destroying yourself
            Shalom
            God Bless

    2. Tom Crowe says:

      You massively missed the point of the post.

      1. Not a Crowe Fan says:

        But followed your logic completely.
        You sought to use religion to bring about hate, and – as usual – succeeded. Another Awarding Winning Crowe Blog – Cheap in faith, but keep them agitated.
        And the three fans will surely admire you.

  4. abadilla says:

    ” Are we angry enough about what’s wrong with the world — the killing of millions of unborn children through abortion; the neglect of the poor and the elderly; the mistreatment of immigrants in our midst; the abuse of science in embryonic stem cell research? Do we really have the courage of our convictions to change those things?”
    Wow! I found these words of the Archbishop to be very true and it reminded me of the accusation made against me and others here at CV that we are “angry” when discussing abortion, etc, and the Archbishop seems to be saying it is correct to be angry about certain moral issues.

    1. Happy and Gay says:

      Yes, I have the courage of my convictions. JESUS CHRIST IS LORD! And I will vote to re-elect President Obama because I am convinced that compared to a Romney administration in the White House, the president will do more to prevent abortions:

      http://www.religiondispatches.org/archive/sexandgender/6501/barack_obama,_pro-life_hero

      However, I do not think that obsessive, virulent rage and anger is the answer. At the same time, I get the idea that our freind abadilla has some alternate non de plumes.

      1. Joe M says:

        What was that link supposed to establish? That Catholics should be for free contraceptives?

        1. Why Not? says:

          Yes.

          1. abadilla says:

            So, you openly contradict paragraph #14 of Humane Vitae, but you think you are a Catholic, right?

          2. Daisy says:

            Rich the troll appears to be quite angry. He is “Pink Catholicism”, “Why Not”, etc.. A creative chap- but still a fool. He is definitely a liberal- evades the question because he cannot answer it!

          3. Allidaba says:

            most of the world rejects Humane Vitae, where have you been for the last 40 years?

          4. abadilla says:

            I’m fully aware of what most of the world thinks of Humane Vitae but if thousands, even millions of people say something is true, but it isn’t objectively true, then numbers do not decide anything. Paul VI was absolutely right in 1968 and he is still right today!

          5. John son of John says:

            many people in the world avoided it.

            they could not avoid the consequences.

            i recommend you read adam and eve

            by

            Mary Eberstadt

            - http://www.ignatius.com/Products/AEAP-H/adam-and-eve-after-the-pill.aspx

            it could help you understand some implications

            Shalom

            God Bless

          6. Joe M says:

            Catholics believe that contraception is a sin. Are you for or against what Catholics believe?

      2. abadilla says:

        If Jesus Christ is your Lord, you are about to vote for a man who has attacked His Church and who vehemently believes in the destruction of the unborn.
        Be my guest Happy and Gay, but I would not want to be you when you face Our Maker at the end of time and account for what you did on this earth, including voting for a modern Herod.

      3. JoeMyGod says:

        How do you feel about the fact that Obama and Hillary Clinton put Ambassador Stevens- a gay man- in a Muslim country that punishes homosexuality with imprisonment or death? They intentionally put him at risk in a hostile country. His muslim captors sodomized him because of his sexuality. They murdered him because of his nationality. Obama watched livestream and did nothing to help the Ambassador or the Navy Seals. Yeah, vote Obama. The truth shall set you free.

        1. abadilla says:

          And Obama stands for gay “rights?”

    2. MARA says:

      Tom, “Jesus Christ is Lord.” And then you paraphrase Him! WOW! How does that relate to false pride? The gospel according to Tom. Praise Be! And the Lord
      Tom said, “let there be darkness” and instantly all the women of the
      world were stripped of their rights and all the rapists ran rampant
      “getting their jollies” and populating the world with their forced
      offspring just as the Lord, Tom, demanded. Women’s rights were sacrificed for the common good and Betty
      Crocker moms populated the earth. Women’s brains began to get smaller
      and smaller through lack of use until eventually all women could do was
      bake and breastfeed and deliver rapist babies. And the Lord Tom said, “let’s have some cake.”

      1. abadilla says:

        Mara, Tom like every Christian has the right to quote Our Lord, The fake Catholics like you, the trolls who come in here to attack, are the ones who commit blasphemy anytime they use the words of Our Lord in vain.
        As for the rest of your comments, I see you are quite a feminist. The problem is, you’re supposed to be “Catholic” first, feminist second.

        1. MARA says:

          abadilla, as shocking as it may seem, there are no “supposed tos.” We either make ethical decisions or unethical decisions. And a reminder; no one is born a Catholic or Muslim or Protestant. We are born as individual human beings who may or may not choose to follow a religion. Religion didn’t exist until human beings invented it and not the other way around. If there were no human beings there would be no religion.

          1. abadilla says:

            “We either make ethical decisions or unethical decisions.”
            Correct. In a morally relativistic worldview the kind of decisions one makes is merely a matter of opinion. In a Catholic worldview the ethical decisions one makes are either moral decisions, amoral decisions, or immoral decisions, guiding oneself on an objective truth that emanates from God.

            Correct, we are not born into any religion, but once we are inserted on a religion whether by baptism or other means, one can’t live life as if God did not exist. In order to be true to oneself, (integrity) one must make decisions according to the faith one professes. If not, then there is no justification for being a believer because a believer, to be a genuine one, must always go from belief to the practice of that belief.

            “Religion didn’t exist until human beings invented it and not the other way around.”
            I guess you never studied “primitive” religion in college. Human beings have always needed a religion to explain the meaning of life, and if religion wasn’t there, it would have been invented by human beings.
            Again, just like your notions about a fetus, or about women forced to have their babies, and now your notion of what religion is and its non role in the moral development of a human being come from a secular world view, my notions of the same subjects emanate from my religious worldview which is framed by Catholicism. You can’t engage people in this forum, with the exception of moronic trolls, without having some sort of reference to Catholicism, because this site, whether one likes to admit it or not, is Catholic. If this site were Jewish, and I wanted to engage participant Jews in a dialogue of some sort, I better know something about Judaism and what frames the worldview of a Jew.
            When a Christian says “Jesus is Lord” he/she means that Our Lord is the Way, Truth, and Life, of our lives. If you don’t see it this way or a similar way to the way I express it, then you are missing the point of Tom Crowe and CV when, for reasons foreign to me, they decided to write and publish this post.

  5. Daisy says:

    Please share with us the programs funded by the Demorats that are saving the lives of the unborn. I was unable to find any but that doesn’t mean that none exist- I may have typed incorrect keywords. I like to be an informed individual so, please let me know the programs that you refer to. Thank you very much.

    1. Pick Catholicism says:

      Yes, I’ve volunteered before as well. These women do wonderful work, and it is not an easy job. You should be saluting these women that do this work, not berating them and diminishing their work because you disagree with their politics. They only thing that your post proves, daisy, is that you are petty.

      1. Daisy says:

        What work are you refering to? I made a sincere request and you- Rich- are a liar. I typed in “what programs do Democrats have to reduce abortion” and all I got were references to poverty- i.e, reduce poverty and abortion will be reduced. How? Unfortunately- no funds were mentioned. Now, using that premise (again, I still would like facts showing how this is accomplished)- wouldn’t giving the poor a job reduce poverty and help the middle class stay solvent- which could help reduce poverty for both the lower and middle class? Honestly- I just cannot see how the Democrats are saving the lives of the unborn.

        1. Dear Daisy says:

          Dear Daisy – maybe you are must choosing to be ignorant, but you are not choosing to be a good Catholic

  6. I say it when I go to my job, saving the unborn, and funded by democrats. I save lives with their help. What do you do?

    1. abadilla says:

      “Please share with us the programs funded by the Democrats.” You didn’t do that ragingcatholic just like Obama won’t answer specifically, what happened in Libya while his administration slept on it.

      1. Cheap Shot by Abadilla says:

        Slept on it?
        What a mockery of the tragic loss of life. You need to stop this insulting at the expense of American servants and soldiers. That is most disgusting, and only acceptable at CV.

        1. abadilla says:

          What happened in Libya while the administration slept on it?’ Is that what you consider a cheap shot? I don’t see that question as a cheap shot at all, but a question every American who loves freedom and demands his or her government be accountable to them, should be asking.
          “That is most disgusting, and only acceptable at CV.”
          I guess the websites you go to only allow leftists to write their thoughts. Not here at CV.

        2. BufordJr. says:

          The biggest mockery of the tragic loss of life was when Obama decided that appearing on The View was more important than sending in troops to help Stevens and the Navy Seals or properly protecting Steve after the walls of the Embassy were breached in June.

      2. Daisy says:

        He can’t and won’t give us the name of ANY programs funded by Democrats because there aren’t any. There is nothing more powerful than a well-told lie. Jesus called Satan a liar. Liars are evil.

        1. abadilla says:

          He knows there are no porgrams run by the Democrats who care about women who abort their children, but he drank the kool aid and would like us to think the Dems care when in their own platform, they made it clear they do not believe in protecting the unborn. They have become the “Party of the Culture of Death,” but I suppose it is hard to abandom a party when you have supported it for many years and when the Church is seen as the liar and not the Democratic Party.
          Yes, Jesus referred to Satan as “The Father of Lies” and many here do follow Satan.

          1. Peter says:

            The name Romney = 666 in computer code

            The name Monson = 666 in computer code

            The name Lucifer = 666 in computer code

          2. Peter says:

            Of course, like I said earlier- I have no problem with the obstructionist and slanderous liar Mormon Harry Reid= 666 in computer code. Mr. Reid declared in 2011 that it would be “foolish for us to do a budget” because he did not want voters to see that the Democrats really wanted more spending and higher taxes. So, the Democrats just sat back and took shots at Paul Ryan’s budget BUT the Democratic incumbents Casey (PA), Tester (MT)and Nelson (FL) are now campaigning as champions of many of Ryan’s proposals, but calling them their own. Chuckie Schumer (NY) has stated that the Dems will stop any attempt at bipartisan tax reform NEXT YEAR, promising gridlock in 2013 no matter who wins.

          3. Peter says:

            Ryan’s budget doesn’t reflect Catholic Social teachings.

          4. John son of John says:

            in order for a lay persons “formulations” to be completly condemned all active bishops need to condemn them not three bishops out of 300+ or 7 lay people out of 17 million+
            Shalom
            God Bless

          5. abadilla says:

            Honestly, and you think serious Catholics should take your garbage seriously? If the candidate had been Gingrich or Santorum would you be saying the same of them? Of course, because your hatred of Republicans is obvious.

        2. Peter says:

          “Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son.” 1 John 2:22

          Go ahead and vote for Romney and sin against the Holy Spirit.

      3. Drained All says:

        ragingcatholic throws out lies because he know that a lie spoken often enough takes on the appearance of truth. He has been deceived by the propaganda ministry of the Democratic Party.

        1. abadilla says:

          Oh, I know he lies and lies and lies, in the hope his lies become truth if he repeats them aften enough!

    2. Joe M says:

      You told us that you work at an abortion clinic. You refer to the unborn as “lives”. So, you aren’t even hiding behind the false argument that unborn people are not lives.

      You facilitate the taking of innocent, defenseless human life. That is in contradiction to the most fundamental Catholic beliefs.

      1. Nunsense says:

        Joe – If you cannot follow along without just throwing out stupid comments, please just stop replying.

        1. CatholicCon.org says:

          You need to stop throwing out stupid comments, Rich the troll.

        2. Joe M says:

          Explain to me what I am missing. Did ragingcatholic not say that they work at an abortion clinic? Is abortion not in contradiction to Catholic beliefs?

    3. Daisy says:

      Sorry- I hit the comment button and not the reply to ragingcatholic as I intended.
      Please share with us the programs funded by the Democrats that are saving the lives of the unborn. I was unable to find any but that doesn’t mean that none exist- I may have typed incorrect keywords. I like to be an informed individual so, please let me know the programs that you refer to. Thank you very much.

      1. CV is NOT Catholic says:

        Daisy – If you cannot find any it is because you are really not trying to find any. If you think that saving lives of unborn is a Republican thing, then you are quite wrong. You are puting partisanship before your faith. This is not at all what the Bishop was talking about, although Tom did try to confuse you in that manner.
        Try again with a pure heart and see what you can really find.
        Or just follow the lies at CV.

        1. John son of John says:

          lies what lies?
          please tell me more.
          Shalom
          God Bless

        2. Daisy says:

          Rich- I tried. The only sites that came up dealt with the premise that reducing poverty reduces abortions. No funds, grants or programs on reducing abortion or abortion counseling were found. Sometimes I think you are a lost cause, Rich/Buford/JoeMyGod but I know the Holy Spirit is working on your conversion and rest assured, I am praying that you hear His voice and change your ways.

        3. Realty Dose says:

          Couldn’t find any programs either, could you Rich/Buford/Paul?

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