In protest, Egypt recalls Vatican ambassador

This is getting worse and worse:

Egypt has recalled its ambassador to the Vatican in protest after Pope Benedict XVI urged the governments of several Muslim-dominated countries including Egypt to ensure that their Christian minorities are able to practice their faith without discrimination or violence.

“Egypt asked its ambassador in the Vatican to come to Cairo for consultation after the Vatican’s new statements that touch on Egyptian affairs, and which Egypt considers an unacceptable interference in its internal affairs,” foreign ministry spokesman Hossam Zaki said in a statement on Tuesday. [RTT News]


23 Christians are murdered on Christmas Eve, the pope says “please watch out for our people” and Egypt gets mad … at the pope?!

Egypt has apparently decided to entrench itself firmly against the pope’s completely reasonable plea. I hope other nations join the Vatican’s brave stand on behalf of Christians worldwide.

UPDATE: AmP reader Angele clarifies:

The bombing was on New Years and killed at least 21, which led to a fear of another attack on their Christmas Eve, January 6. More:




    Thom: It’s good that you are asking for prayers for the Holy Father’s protection. We Catholics tend to forget that John Paul II was the target of three assignation attempts. The first and best known one was in Vatican Square in 1981. What’s not remembered as well was that the next year an SSPX priest (It’s unclear whether he was cashiered from the order before or after the attempt) tried to stab him with a bayonet and finally Al Quida planned to get him with a suicide bomb in 1995. We should especially pray for the Pope’s safety especially when he travels.

  • Bruce

    As history has shown, the only force in the world that truly appreciates reason and rationality is Christianity. In our faith, God and His creation can be studied and understood by the human mind, because God (by His very nature) and His creation are rational, reasonable, and able to be understood. In the early days of the Church, this is what attracted many Greek (and later, Roman) philosophers who believed the universe to be ordered and rational, as opposed to chaotic and random. Man and creation are organized and structured based upon a perfect form or ideal, but itself was not perfected. The Greeks tried to find this perfection of man and his world through philosophy alone, and very few were able to approach it. It was not until the Christians came along, such as Paul and Justin Martyr, that the Greeks were able to attach themselves to a efficacious philosophy/faith that brought man to perfection not through his efforts alone, but through the grace of God. Now, instead of the few seeking perfection but not obtaining it, perfection was available to all through grace. This furthered the belief in not only a reasonable and rational universe, but also a reasonable, rational, and PERSONAL God who has an intimate relationship with each and every human being. Islam does not consider their god to be reasonable nor rational by nature, but instead they view him as absolutely transcendent…above and beyond reason, rationality, and order. Christians know that they can come to know and understand God, within the limits of human nature, because He allows us to understand Him through reason. Muslims consider their god to be absolutely incomprehensible, to the point where they can say (with ardent faith) that their god can absolutely call for the destruction of innocent peoples, because we cannot understand his ways…he is beyond our futile understanding. And therein lies the problem. Our God is God, and He is reasonable and rational by nature, allowing mankind to know, love, and serve Him through the ways He has revealed Himself to us…even taking on our flesh and blood to complete the task. Islam’s god is none of those things, and the result is an “anything goes” manner of existence, as they cannot understand their god and may justify any level of perversion or violence because they are not bound by reason nor rationality. As a matter of personal opinion, however, any Muslim who DOES consider their god to be reasonable and rational is, at heart, not a Muslim, for that is a Christian view of God, making them (quite frankly) ignorant Christians instead of true Muslims.

    • GW 3 characters huh?

      Check out:
      I haven’t read it myself, but I have read the promos at Ignatius press. This book shows some more detail on what you’re saying and offers some historical insights as well. From what I understand from the promos, there was an internal struggle in the world of Islam between those who proposed some credibility in human reason and those who denied it. The ones who denied it won. What you have today are the secularists, who place value on reason only but not faith, Muslims who seem to place value on faith only but not reason, and Catholics and other Christians who value both faith and reason.
      Of course, I’ve met and talked with Muslims who also value reason and with Christians who do not value reason. But this at least is a simple way of understanding general trends.

    • Leigh

      Bruce…..Ghandi was not Christian. He had a true appreciation for reason and rationality.

  • JohnE

    Perhaps the Muslims would be more understanding if the pope did like they do and pronounced that anyone who says something derogatory about Christianity should be put to death — such as denying that Jesus is the Son of God. Yeah, didn’t think so. How can you reason with people who don’t use reason?

    • Pete

      This is what happens when one religion is dominant in a country and has unlimited authority to write laws to deny others the opportunity to believe otherwise and practice different faiths. Sort of like in America, where Christians added the term “under God” into our Pledge of Allegiance during the 1950’s.

      • Karamazov

        Or when those dirty Christians had inserted into the constitution the idea that rights are universal qualities of the human person given by the Creator as part of a being human. That was the Christians right? And then they make speeches about how lines in the Declaration must be taken seriously because the Constitution cannot be really be understood without the Declaration of Independence. It is terrible that chief executives like Lincoln and others would make such the claim that the Declaration must be viewed as a kind of animating principle for the Constitution. Do you see what happens when people of religious persuasion have ideas and are allowed to govern? It really is terrible and we must do something as a society about it. Religious people clearly cannot be rational and especially Christians in America who are given civil power. What were they thinking putting “under God” into the pledge? I mean who would want to possibly reference the words of the Declaration concerning the inalienable rights that Americans hold so dear? Disgraceful.

      • JohnE

        Pete, you should thank God you’re in America (or another country founded on Christian ideals). If you were in a Muslim country you probably wouldn’t want to tell too many people that you don’t believe in God or Islam. You would soon have to shut your mouth or lose your head. But I probably have to repeat what I said in my first post: How can you reason with people who don’t use reason?



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