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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s Orwellian Marriage Moment</title>
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		<title>By: Russell Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103356</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 08:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess your hearing is deficient as your &quot;logic.&quot; I both believe in God and am Catholic by religion... thank you for judging. Just because I have faith does not mean I can&#039;t question.
And no matter how many times you repeat the mantra of perfect love and perfect marriage (as if there were ever such a thing) children are not always the result and in some cases are the unwanted result. And of course the obvious which you keep avoiding, children are also the result of plain old lust or irresponsible couplings or accidents or force or even the evil of rape, not always &quot;self-giving love.&quot; If all kids were the product of love and lived in loving homes, there wouldn&#039;t be so many who need to be adopted to actually put them in those types of homes (gay or straight).
I think you are so indoctrinated into Church philosophy you will never see the reality of the procreation of kids in anything other than the light shining through very rose colored glasses.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess your hearing is deficient as your &#8220;logic.&#8221; I both believe in God and am Catholic by religion&#8230; thank you for judging. Just because I have faith does not mean I can&#8217;t question.<br />
And no matter how many times you repeat the mantra of perfect love and perfect marriage (as if there were ever such a thing) children are not always the result and in some cases are the unwanted result. And of course the obvious which you keep avoiding, children are also the result of plain old lust or irresponsible couplings or accidents or force or even the evil of rape, not always &#8220;self-giving love.&#8221; If all kids were the product of love and lived in loving homes, there wouldn&#8217;t be so many who need to be adopted to actually put them in those types of homes (gay or straight).<br />
I think you are so indoctrinated into Church philosophy you will never see the reality of the procreation of kids in anything other than the light shining through very rose colored glasses.   </p>
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		<title>By: Deker71</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103346</link>
		<dc:creator>Deker71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not at all.     God is the perfect example of how to love.  So when both spouses give themselves completely to God, and to each other, you have perfect love and a perfect marriage.  Children are the result of that self-giving love.

It sounds like you don&#039;t believe in God and/or religion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not at all.     God is the perfect example of how to love.  So when both spouses give themselves completely to God, and to each other, you have perfect love and a perfect marriage.  Children are the result of that self-giving love.</p>
<p>It sounds like you don&#8217;t believe in God and/or religion.</p>
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		<title>By: 1776Mariner</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103306</link>
		<dc:creator>1776Mariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The national leadership was taken over by homosexuals.  I am a health professional as is my husband.  Thankfully we are both retired and don&#039;t have to deal with the professional lunacy anymore.  Younger professionals have no idea as they have been educated with the &quot;new normal&quot;.  Laugh all you want.  The history will be told one day.  In the mean time enjoy the culture while it implodes as it ignores the natural law in every area of life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The national leadership was taken over by homosexuals.  I am a health professional as is my husband.  Thankfully we are both retired and don&#8217;t have to deal with the professional lunacy anymore.  Younger professionals have no idea as they have been educated with the &#8220;new normal&#8221;.  Laugh all you want.  The history will be told one day.  In the mean time enjoy the culture while it implodes as it ignores the natural law in every area of life.</p>
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		<title>By: 1776Mariner</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103307</link>
		<dc:creator>1776Mariner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 22:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The national leadership was taken over by homosexuals.  I am a health professional as is my husband.  Thankfully we are both retired and don&#039;t have to deal with the professional lunacy anymore.  Younger professionals have no idea as they have been educated with the &quot;new normal&quot;.  Laugh all you want.  The history will be told one day.  In the mean time enjoy the culture while it implodes as it ignores the natural law in every area of life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The national leadership was taken over by homosexuals.  I am a health professional as is my husband.  Thankfully we are both retired and don&#8217;t have to deal with the professional lunacy anymore.  Younger professionals have no idea as they have been educated with the &#8220;new normal&#8221;.  Laugh all you want.  The history will be told one day.  In the mean time enjoy the culture while it implodes as it ignores the natural law in every area of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103252</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did I miss the post where you showed us your medical credentials?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I miss the post where you showed us your medical credentials?</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103251</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it all boils down to humans being breeding stock... love is just a bonus. I&#039;ll ask the obvious question... you&#039;re saying aside from sterile people who are not &quot;at fault&quot; anyone else who does not want to produce children should not get married. The person who has HIV, the person whose doctor has said to have a child would kill the mother, the people who can&#039;t afford to have a child, or another child (how many must one have). The couple who just think there are enough kids in the world and don&#039;t want to have a child. There are a million reasons for people to not want or be able to have kids and you say they shouldn&#039;t. It is absolutely insane to insist that people become birthing machines as a condition of their marriage. I would guess this would explain what I assume is your defense against gay marriage. As far as marriage being only a religious institution... I suggest you go around and start telling married couples to only file income taxes as singles, because their marriage is only important, derived from and pertinent to their religious beliefs and see how far that will get you.
Anyone who thinks only of the religious side of marriage and not the shared responsibility a married couple has to both their religion and to society has been severely blinded or indoctrinated by their religion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it all boils down to humans being breeding stock&#8230; love is just a bonus. I&#8217;ll ask the obvious question&#8230; you&#8217;re saying aside from sterile people who are not &#8220;at fault&#8221; anyone else who does not want to produce children should not get married. The person who has HIV, the person whose doctor has said to have a child would kill the mother, the people who can&#8217;t afford to have a child, or another child (how many must one have). The couple who just think there are enough kids in the world and don&#8217;t want to have a child. There are a million reasons for people to not want or be able to have kids and you say they shouldn&#8217;t. It is absolutely insane to insist that people become birthing machines as a condition of their marriage. I would guess this would explain what I assume is your defense against gay marriage. As far as marriage being only a religious institution&#8230; I suggest you go around and start telling married couples to only file income taxes as singles, because their marriage is only important, derived from and pertinent to their religious beliefs and see how far that will get you.<br />
Anyone who thinks only of the religious side of marriage and not the shared responsibility a married couple has to both their religion and to society has been severely blinded or indoctrinated by their religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Deker71</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103248</link>
		<dc:creator>Deker71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some things are creations of God and belong to him, while others are creations of society.  Marriage and human life are gifts from God, not society, and belong to him.  Consequently, we are all (born and unborn) created in the image and
likeness of God which makes all of us sacred and precious no matter what are secular laws say.  So society should take no action that threatens, weakens or destroys life.

Regarding the institution of marriage, the book of Genesis states  “That is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and the two of them become one body”.  “One body” refers not only to a conjugal union, but to the creation of a child that results from that union.  Perhaps the most beautiful part of this is how did Moses, who is credited with writing the book of Genesis, know several thousand years ago that “the two of them become one body” foretold the scientific discovery of DNA in the early 20th century, that led to
the discovery that the egg contributes half of the female chromosomes
and the sperm contribute half of the male chromosomes to LITERALLY
MAKE ONE COMPLETE PERSON FROM TWO PEOPLE.  “One complete person” that has the characteristics of a mother and father.

So when I say “why get married” if you&#039;re not going to have kids, it reflects God wishes for us to “be fertile and multiply” when He instituted marriage to create the man-woman-child family unit.  This family unit is the foundation of
strong society, and protects the dignity and development of our future  generations.  Any other definition of marriage weakens or destroys the family unit - if you allow two men or two women to get married, why not three people or a man and a dog.   Weakening the family unit make it easier to take away our rights which some cultures are trying to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some things are creations of God and belong to him, while others are creations of society.  Marriage and human life are gifts from God, not society, and belong to him.  Consequently, we are all (born and unborn) created in the image and<br />
likeness of God which makes all of us sacred and precious no matter what are secular laws say.  So society should take no action that threatens, weakens or destroys life.</p>
<p>Regarding the institution of marriage, the book of Genesis states  “That is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and the two of them become one body”.  “One body” refers not only to a conjugal union, but to the creation of a child that results from that union.  Perhaps the most beautiful part of this is how did Moses, who is credited with writing the book of Genesis, know several thousand years ago that “the two of them become one body” foretold the scientific discovery of DNA in the early 20th century, that led to<br />
the discovery that the egg contributes half of the female chromosomes<br />
and the sperm contribute half of the male chromosomes to LITERALLY<br />
MAKE ONE COMPLETE PERSON FROM TWO PEOPLE.  “One complete person” that has the characteristics of a mother and father.</p>
<p>So when I say “why get married” if you&#8217;re not going to have kids, it reflects God wishes for us to “be fertile and multiply” when He instituted marriage to create the man-woman-child family unit.  This family unit is the foundation of<br />
strong society, and protects the dignity and development of our future  generations.  Any other definition of marriage weakens or destroys the family unit &#8211; if you allow two men or two women to get married, why not three people or a man and a dog.   Weakening the family unit make it easier to take away our rights which some cultures are trying to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103191</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By your reasoning, is there something that God does NOT own?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By your reasoning, is there something that God does NOT own?</p>
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		<title>By: Russell Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103101</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I missed this one.
You CAN&#039;T be serious with that second sentence?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I missed this one.<br />
You CAN&#8217;T be serious with that second sentence?</p>
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		<title>By: Deker71</title>
		<link>http://www.catholicvote.org/obamas-orwellian-marriage-moment/comment-page-1/#comment-103054</link>
		<dc:creator>Deker71</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to hear from you again Patrick.  To quote Scripture: Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar&#039;s and to God the things that are God&#039;s.  What God does own is  each of us.  Each made each one of us in his own image and likeness.  That trumps secular laws.  Don&#039;t you think that&#039;s good?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear from you again Patrick.  To quote Scripture: Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar&#8217;s and to God the things that are God&#8217;s.  What God does own is  each of us.  Each made each one of us in his own image and likeness.  That trumps secular laws.  Don&#8217;t you think that&#8217;s good?</p>
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