Perseverance

“These are the times that try men’s souls.  The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country; but he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.  Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.  Yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph….

“Let it be told to the future world, that in the depth of winter, when nothing but hope and virtue could survive, the city and the country, alarmed at one common danger, came forth to meet it and repulse it…. I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection.  ‘Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death.”

Thomas Paine

December 23, 1776

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25 thoughts on “Perseverance

  1. BB says:

    Thanks Tom! Great post!

  2. Ronaldo says:

    Osama won the catholic vote. Romney won the evangelical vote. Whats wrong with our catholic brothers and sisters? Evangelicals stood their ground but most Catholics voted as fools. Today I’m ashamed to be catholic but will try keep the faith.

    1. Shannon says:

      Ronaldo get over it. Catholics need to adapt and get with the times. Remember the nuns on the bus? It’s not just about birth control and abortion but also taking care of illegal aliens and providing healthcare which is also a catholic social teaching.

      1. Ryan M. says:

        Are you kidding? The NUTS on the bus aren’t Catholics at all but are true liberals. They are an embarrassment.

      2. Dante says:

        Shannon is a perfect example of how church leadership failed in it’s responsibility to clarify Church teachings. She wrongly equates helping illegal aliens with protecting unborn life. Illegal aliens aren’t aborted Shannon. There is such a thing as moral priorities. Check with your local pastor this Sunday after mass.

        1. Paul S says:

          Agreed, Dante…but there is also such a thing as personal, ADULT responsibility to learn and know what your Church teaches, even if you weren’t taught it as a child; and it’s not that difficult, since the publication of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. To say, “I don’t know and I don’t care,” is adolescent, at best; and to say, “I know, I refuse to believe, but I’m staying anyway,” is simply dishonest.

      3. leogirl87 says:

        I don’t know where you’ve been, but the nuns on the bus are being investigated by the Vatican for promoting false teachings.

        Abortion is intrinsically evil even in the poorest of countries, but made worse here in the West because we are able to produce more than enough food and there are so many families wanting to adopt. This “if I can’t have this baby, nobody can” attitude is sickening.

        Birth control is also an evil because it separates the unitive and procreative aspects of the marital act. It also encourages promiscuity at ever younger ages. 2/3 to 3/4 sexually active people between 15-24 have or used to have some form of sexually transmitted disease. It is also never 100% effective, and 40% of babies are born out of wedlock and 1 in 3 women have had an abortion. 54% of women who had abortions were on birth control at the time they got pregnant, so it’s not about access to birth control. We have also seen the divorce rate skyrocket to 40%-60%. Couples who use NFP exclusively and follow Church teaching have a much lower divorce rate of 1%-4%. Coincidence? I think not.

        I do agree about the illegal aliens, though. We need to reform our immigration policy to allow these people to apply to stay here legally. But we should not just let them come here, as up to 10% of illegal immigrants are outlaws from other countries. We need to do this not only out of justice to immigrants but also for the safety of our own people.

        As far as healthcare goes, my ideal world is not a universal health care system where a group of 12 men sit at a table and decide which services an individual can and cannot get; a “nanny state” for lack of a better term. My ideal world is one in which everyone who wants a job can get a job, and can therefore afford to choose their own healthcare plan, or choose to not buy one at all; that is true freedom. I do think it is good that so many Catholic hospitals provide health care regardless of the person’s ability to pay. Yes, they get a bill in the mail afterward, but many people pay a little at a time (whatever they can) or don’t pay it at all.

    2. Dante says:

      Reality: an unborn child is safer in the womb of a Muslim than the womb of a Catholic. Church leadership needs to take some responsibility.

      1. Ronaldo says:

        Dante you may just be right.

  3. Love You Guys! says:

    Thomas Paine: “Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst.” You might want to look up more Paine quotes before you continue to quote him. And thank you ever so much Randall and Joe M! Folks like you, andall the regular columnists at CV are more responsilbe for Obama’s victory than you’ll ever realize! Keep on keepin’ on! Santorum in 2016! Or Ryan. Or Jindall. Or Rubio. Hey, write-in Peters-Crowe! That’s the ticket!

    1. Dante says:

      It’s so easy to be an athiest in a Christian world. God help you if your opinion ever becomes the majority. Your fellow athiests won’t be so compassionate.

  4. Joe M says:

    Great sentiment. Along the same lines, I’ve been thinking of Catholics persecuted in places like China. It’s humbling how much adversity they face (and persevere against) compared to our struggles in the US.

    1. riotjock™ says:

      I’ve been thinking about Catholics in the United States. How they aren’t persecuted at all, but rather, spend millions of dollars persecuting gay people and trying to harm them. I’ve been thinking about that Catholic run organization that said they wanted to “fan the flames of hostility” against blacks and gays and how Catholics still continue to funnel money into their campaigns of hate and discrimination. I’ve been thinking about our Bishops who divert money from the poor and needy to run television commercials calling gay people a “gathering storm” in order to incite prejudice and fear.

      I’ve been thinking about how embarrassed that I am to be a Catholic these days.

      1. Dante says:

        Could you please cite your sources?

      2. leogirl87 says:

        I don’t know what you’re talking about. Not wanting gays to marry in the Catholic Church is not persecution. Gays already have rights to buy property, visit each other in hospitals, adopt children, etc. They can also claim child tax credits for the kids they adopt. They are not being persecuted.

        People who beat up gays are committing a SIN and should be punished accordingly. Gays are humans created in the image of God, just like everyone else.

        If anyone is “fanning the flames of hostility” it is the pro-gay organizations that shut down Catholic adoption agencies (even though they were happy to refer gay couples and single people to other agencies), Catholic wedding planners, Catholic bakers who refuse to make wedding cakes for gay couples (even though they are happy to make birthday or graduation cakes for gay people), and even in some places forcing the Church to allow gay couples to get married. If you don’t think this is happening, you need to wake up and look at states and countries where gay marriage has already been made legal for a few years or longer.

        And what happened to “love thy neighbor”? Is it really loving someone to encourage them to sin? I understand people have the freedom to accept or reject God, and we need to meet people where they’re at. But I think gay activists of today are badly misinformed about key issues. Most gay relationships do not last more than 5-10 years without breaking up or getting other people in the bedroom, and a very low percentage make it past 10 years. The “20 years together” poster couple is not the norm. I know the heterosexual divorce rate is bad right now, but it’s not 95+% like it is for gays. Lesbian relationships tend to be very violent, and depression is very high. Gay men often have very high numbers of sexual partners and are at risk for many diseases. They are also at risk for colon cancer and intestinal infections. The average lifespan for a gay person is lower than the average life span for a smoker. “Forcing” people to be straight or criminalizing sodomy are not answers, but we do not need to be teaching homosexual acts/foreplay in schools (currently being done as part of “tolerance” presentations), or encouraging teenagers–who are young and impressionable adolescents and still have years of brain development left–to “explore their sexuality.”

        There has also been some very promising research done by organizations such as NARTH that deal with persons with unwanted same sex attraction. I think we could see some real and positive results if people got counseling. I don’t mean the old counselors that were either clergy (not qualified as counselors) or the ones that wanted to force people to be straight and made them feel bad about themselves. I mean the qualified ones that deal with the deep pain that persons with same-sex attraction have felt. No gay gene has been found, but there are strong signs that same-sex attraction is a developmental adaptation. Being gay is NOT a choice, but it is also not something they’re born with, and if they can deal with the underlying issues from their early childhood and elementary school years (not relating well with their fathers, not relating well with their gender, etc.; no two cases are exactly the same), it can diminish a lot of these attractions, and avoid some of the terrible problems in the gay community (violence, depression, cancer, STDs, lower life expectancy). So the counseling would not focus on same-sex attraction so much as it would be regular counseling that ANYONE (gay or straight) could benefit from, except more focused toward early childhood (when a child develops his or her gender identity).

        Black people are allowed to get married in the Catholic Church. I do not know where you’re getting your information from. Maybe you’re talking about a “Catholic run” branch of the KKK? Never heard of this.

      3. SSA Catholic says:

        Funny you should say that, riotjock. I’m Catholic and I’ve struggled with same-sex attractions most of my adult life, and I don’t feel persecuted by the Church at all. In fact, I feel grateful for the Church in helping me to understand God’s plan for human sexuality. I feel grateful for the sacraments, particularly the Holy Eucharist and Confession, for giving me the grace not to fall into homosexual sin any more. It is not the Church I feel persecuted by, but rather the those who advocate so-called same-sex “marriage.” They largely do not even acknowledge the existence of people who have same-sex attraction but desire to live chastely and/or deal with the root causes of their attractions. And when they do acknowledge the existence of these people, they act as if we’re crazy and that we just need to get with the program and act on our sexual urges. I’ve found a freedom in my relationship with Christ and in the Church that no political advocacy group can give me.

      4. Joe M says:

        riotjock. In what way does the Catholic Church persecute gay people? Please be specific.

        Whoever made the “fan the flames of hostility” remark was wrong to do so. However, you are wrong to suggest that they represent the teachings of the Church. Indeed, many gay marriage advocates made ugly, racist remarks against blacks when they learned that the black vote went against a measure they wanted in California. Does that mean that I am right to go around calling all gay people racist? Because that is essentially what you are doing.

  5. Randall says:

    Last night was a disaster for Catholics and for the country… but now we must continue the fight by impeaching 0bozo as soon as possible. Probably for Benghazi, or we can find something else incriminating, it doesn’t really matter as long as he’s impeached. When you’re a known radical Islamist socialist who pals around with terrorists, your closet is full of skeletons.

    1. Dante says:

      Impeachment will not solve the real problem; changing hearts and minds. It starts in the pews. It starts with courageous priests.

    2. greg smith says:

      Hey Randall – We don’t have to look for skeletons. Obama was born in Kenya, or Indonesia or maybe North Korea. He’s not really the president. Anyway, don’t take my word for it. Ask Olrley Taitz or Donald Trump. It’s all a plot by the Fremasons or the Illuminati – Greg

    3. Alex_NYC says:

      “it doesn’t really matter as long as he’s impeached.”

      I’ve got one! Let’s impeach him for being black. Right? I mean, who does HE think he is, with all his blackness going all up in the White House like he owns it. I mean, it was called the WHITE house for a reason.

      ….Wait a minute I’m sorry. I just checked my calander and it just so happens after all that it’s not SARCASTIC EXTREMIST AMERICAN-TALIBAN MORON day. I’m so sorry. If I had known you believed all the bullshit you just wrote, I would have left you alone in your fantasy land to drown in your hatred for the president of these great United States, a country that has granted said president 4 more years.

      Yes, those 4 more years will be served, by the way. Please post every day and remind us of how bigots and hateful Taliban-esque extremists such as yourself are reeling from this.

      Oh and by the way, 4 MORE YEARS!!!! 4 MORE YEARS!!!!

      1. Markus says:

        Alex your post shows your true IQ which appears to be in the teens. Who do you think voted Obama into office his first term? He couldn’t have made it without the white vote. But I do think its a shame that 99% of Blacks voted for him simply based on his race. If whites would have applied this same practice he wouldn’t have been elected. Who are the real racists here? Stop playing the race game, we are better than that.

        I voted for him the first time but afterward I researched his aggressive abortion record and systematic attack on religion. Why do they call it pro choice anyway? Call it what is really is…pro abortion.

        Oh, and by the way I’m a black evangelical.

        1. Alex_NYC says:

          You’re a foolish moron. IQ has no bearing in life except to the weak minded whom seek validation in metrics. Being black yourself, it’s pretty sad that you think IQ really does mean anything, lol.

          In what you said to whom voted in Obama, I never, never said he made it either now, or then, without -ANYONE’S- vote, don’t put words in my mouth. For someone who prides himself in “IQ” levels so much, you should bargain for a little more reading comprehension.

          Finally, it’s sad to see you put down your own people over such a petty, trivial, and false accusation. Obama got 95% of the black vote in 08, Gore got 90% of the black vote in 2000. Are you trying to tell me that Gore is black? You foolish, ignorant man. You’ve been brainwashed, lol..

          1. Markus says:

            Of course we voted for Gore because there was no black candidate to vote for. If its not about race why in the 2008 primary did more of my people vote for Obama rather than Hillary, whose husband was a great President who during his term was a champion of my people? If a situation allowed Obama to run against Bill I suspect Obama would get 90% of the black vote. Don’t you?

      2. Joe M says:

        I don’t think that any president should be impeached for wrong or no reason. However, the Benghazi cover up appears that it could be an impeachable offense, depending on whether or not the president was directly involved in the deception.

        Hopefully, the House is able to bring to light the entire story, whether it implicates Obama directly or not.

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