Rush vs. the Pope: 7 Quotes Answered

Rush Limbaugh let fly a barrage of criticism yesterday about what he called “the latest anti-capitalist proclamation from the pope.” He was talking about Evangelii Gaudium, but he was getting his information from the “drive-by media,” whose reporting on Republicans he treats with appropriate skepticism but whose words on the Pope he swallows hook, line and sinker.

rush and frankI have always like Rush. Yes, he is an entertainer; yes, his comic egocentrism is probably more “funny because it’s true” than “funny because he’s not like that at all.” But while most talk-show hosts just have a talent is for distilling conventional wisdom, his talent is for delivering a new take on a familiar subject. But he’s completely wrong on Pope Francis. Badly wrong. Dehumanizingly, disastrously, miss-the-whole-point wrong. Here are my answers to seven quotes from his radio monologue which his website titles “It’s Sad How Wrong Pope Francis Is.”

1. First, Rush gets the “idolatry of money” wrong:

Said Rush, “In [Evangelii Gaudium], Francis went further than previous comments criticizing the global economic system, attacking the ‘idolatry of money.’”

Actually, no, Pope Francis did not go further in criticizing the global economic system here. He went furthest in his May address to ambassadors. His new document merely raises a favorite theme of his in his favorite way. He has been criticizing the “idolatry of money” in forum after forum, to anyone who will listen.

The Pope does not have in mind just the out-of-whack worshipper of the market. He has in mind anyone who considers himself merely a material being in search of material pleasures — and that means state-worshipers as well as market-worshipers.

Early in the new document Pope Francis sums up in a poignant way what this idolatry looks like:

Wrote Francis, “The great danger in today’s world, pervaded as it is by consumerism, is the desolation and anguish born of a complacent yet covetous heart, the feverish pursuit of frivolous pleasures, and a blunted conscience. Whenever our interior life becomes caught up in its own interests and concerns, there is no longer room for others, no place for the poor. God’s voice is no longer heard, the quiet joy of his love is no longer felt, and the desire to do good fades. This is a very real danger for believers too.”

What does idolatry of money look like? It looks like Obamacare and Black Friday, both.

2. Next, Rush gave us the old Protestant “rich Church” criticism.

“I have been numerous times to the Vatican. It wouldn’t exist without tons of money,” Rush said. And later: “The Catholic Church, the American Catholic Church, has an annual budget of $170 billion. I think that’s more than General Electric earns every year. And the Catholic Church of America is the largest landholder in Manhattan. I mean, they have a lot of money. They raise a lot of money. They wouldn’t be able to reach out the way they do without a lot of money. Anyway, that’s it. I’ve gone as far as my instincts tell me to go. Made the point.”

He is tiptoeing around the old “the Church is rich!” complaint that Protestants make about the Catholic Church. And any Catholic apologetics site will answer it:

VAticanIn 2011, the Vatican had a $19 million budget deficit; the latest of years of defecits. Diocese all over the world have been struggling financially. What we do have, we tend to spend on our mission: The Church is the biggest provider of non-governmental charity in the world. it’s the biggest provider of non-governmental education.

Yes, there are some prominent bad apples in the Catholic Church. But not as many as we have seen in the world’s Tycos, AIGs, etc. or the U.S. government.

Meanwhile his implicit criticism of Catholic extravagance in celebrating Christ (“I have been to the Vatican”) was raised and answered by Jesus himself.

3. Next, Rush gets the world outside America wrong:

Says Rush, “This is just pure Marxism coming out of the mouth of the pope. Unfettered capitalism? That doesn’t exist anywhere. Unfettered capitalism is a liberal socialist phrase to describe the United States. Unfettered, unregulated.”

Argenina depressionAhem … Rush has apparently never heard of the Great Depression: Not the Great Depression in America, the Great Depression in Argentina, which started in the 1990s, but hit a crisis point from 1998-2002. Unfettered capitalism? Maybe it doesn’t exist anywhere … but it came close to existing for some favored corporate interests in Argentina under President Carlos Menem.

No, Argentina’s example was not indicative of all capitalism, as current progressives there want the public to believe; but, yes, it does demonstrate that money does not regulate itself very well.

4. Next, Rush gets the call to generosity wrong.

Says Rush, “The pope ‘also called on rich people to share their wealth.’ We were just talking about the charitable donations and contributions that existed in this country, and they are profound. The United States is near the top of the list in the world of charitable countries, but even with all the charity, and it is tremendous, it cannot compete with capitalism in elevating people out of poverty. There is nothing the world has ever devised that has elevated more people out of poverty than capitalism.”

First of all, here (as elsewhere) much of what is taken as controversy in Pope Francis is just a paraphrase of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which also says love of money hurts our giving percentage:

“The Lord grieves over the rich, because they find their consolation in the abundance of goods,” says the Catechism (2547). It also notes: “All Christ’s faithful are to ‘direct their affections rightly, lest they be hindered in their pursuit of perfect charity’” (2545).

He is right that Americans are generous people. But we could be a lot more generous if more of us lived within our means.

He is also right that some forms of capitalism, namely entrepreneurial capitalism, help create opportunity in society. But even then, financial bubbles and periodic disasters plays havoc with lives and decrease giving, as in 2009.

5. But Rush is wrong when he assumes entrepreneurial capitalism is the only kind.

Says Rush: “‘Pope Francis said that trickle-down policy…’ We hear about trickle-down policies? ‘Pope Francis said that trickle-down policies have not proven to work.’ Oh, but they have. It’s exactly what Obama is trying to create, in fact, although he wouldn’t dare call it that.”

First of all, yikes. It took opposing the Pope to get Rush to use Obama as a positive example, but there you have it. According to Rush, Pope Francis is wrong and to prove it, he cites Obama. Does Rush dislike the Pope more than he dislikes Obama?

Rush is equating Obama’s Keynesian government trickle-down with the Friedmanian market trickle-down:

“Trickle-down is exactly what happens when you engage in economic activity,” says Rush. “You spend money and it trickles down to everybody you spend it with, and then it trickles down to everybody they end up interacting with economically.”

Except it didn’t in Argentina, with its 18% unemployment — and it doesn’t throughout Latin America, where the rich are as rich as the richest in the First World and the poor are as poor as the poorest in the Third World.

rushThat’s because not all capitalisms are the same. In state-directed capitalism like China and oligarchic capitalism like much of Latin America, trickle-down (or “spillover” as some of Rush’s listeners retranslated the Pope’s phrase) does not work.

Rush mocks what he takes as Francis’ indictment of the rich: “The rich hoard, and they abuse, and they impugn, and they take advantage of, and they steal!” But that would not sound like much of an exaggeration of what happened in Argentina with the rich who were on the right side of government corruption to the poor who were on the wrong side of it.

6. The Pope is wrong about Francis’ view of communism.

“I would be remiss if I did not point out Pope John Paul II, who had as his primary enemy, communism. Pope John Paul II largely credited Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher for the defeat of Soviet sponsored communism in Europe. … There has been a long-standing tension between the Catholic Church and communism. …. That’s what makes this, to me, really remarkable.”

Yikes. Rush thinks Francis is breaking from the Church’s anti-communism tradition to embrace it!

pope francisBut Pope Francis is no communist. In the book based on a 2010 interview, On Heaven and Earth: Pope Francis on Faith, Family and the Church in the 21st Century, Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio shared his thoughts on communism.:

Man has no hope in communism, he says, because it denudes man of his spirit, and makes him merely material.

Says Francis, in communism “everything that is transcendant and points to a hope in something beyond, paralyzes the work here. Therefore, it paralyzes man, it is an opiate that makes him a conformist, it makes him bear his suffering, it does not allow him to progress, but this is not only the concept of the communist system.”

He hates unbridled capitalism for the same reason he hates communism: it also makes man believe he is merely material:

Francis wrote that capitalism can easily devolve into “a civilization of consumerism, of hedonism, of political arrangements between the powers or political sectors, the reign of money. All are manifestations of worldliness.”

This is not to say the Pope doesn’t “get it” that money is necessary and can be good. As reported by Vatican Radio:

Francis says that“Money contributes greatly to many good works for the development of the human race. The real problem is a distorted use of money, attachment and greed. Hence the Lord’s warning: ‘Take heed and beware of all covetousness’”

7. Rush gets “choice” wrong.

Rush said, “Buying is free will. By definition, people choose to buy. Except health care, then they’re forced to. There’s always a caveat to everything, isn’t there? But in an unfettered — ahem — capitalistic society, people choose to buy. A purchase is an act of individual sovereignty. And in order to succeed, a business must do something that makes their fellow man want to buy it, willingly part with their cash to obtain it. That’s capitalism. Government is compulsion, on the other hand. Capitalism is moral because it honors individual freedom, but government is compulsion.”

my-choiceAnd so, in the end, Rush makes a classic “pro-choice” argument. Human choosing makes things moral? Does the fact of my buying pornography make it moral? Does the fact of my buying an abortion make it moral? Does the fact of my paying a pimp for a prostitute make the transaction okay?

Rush makes a classic mistake. Men of the left tend to demonize the market and romanticize the possibilities of the state. Men of the right tend to demonize the government and romanticize the market.

Well, like it or not (and I for one don’t like it), Americans’ choices brought us Obamacare — in their choice of their representatives and senators and of their reelection of Obama himself.

And like it or not (and I don’t like this either), the market in America is not all about freedom. For one example, the market places so much debt on me as a home-owner that I am sure future generations will classify me as a wage-slave of my lender — working 8 to 5, five days a week to send them their interest payments while feeding my family. Many Americans are also wage slaves to credit card companies.

So, no, Rush isn’t right. Francis calls us to worship neither the state nor the market. He calls us to worship Christ.

He is the difficult but only answer to what we will see on Black Friday.

  • Garath Maenpaa

    When are AMerican conservative catholics going to start being catholics and not republicams.Thepope our infallu le pope has just repeated catholic doctrine about capital ism and tbey act surprised! True catholics who are not living in tbeir bubble k ow tbis . REPUblican Catholics denounce LIMBAUGH OR YOu ARE HIPPOCRITES or become a protestant.But you ain’t carholic

  • James Schroder

    CatholicVote.Org has sold its soul to the demon of capitalism and greed. They are the catholic equivalent of the tea party and they inherit the condemnation of God. Jesus was a liberal, a socialist, a taxpayer, a healer, a provider, a lover, and unfettered corporate capitalism is against everything HE stands for.

    • Mick

      I don’t ever hear Jesus proclaiming: Let Caesar take care of the poor! He was no socialist and wasn’t liberal in His teachings on morality. Capitalism does lift more people out of poverty – PROVIDING the government stays out of the way. The American left is NOT liberal when it comes to discussing ideas different from their own agenda. What is the left ‘liberal’ on other than sex, drugs, and spending other people’s money. If you want to care for the poor, stop taking hand-outs, earn money to care for your family, and give the excess to directly help those in need – That’s the Church’s teaching called ‘subsidiarity’ – and it’s NOT welfare.

    • Mike M

      A taxpayer? Perhaps he was, but the Gospels make no mention of that.

      “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s” was a snarky remark. To put it into context, remember that he asked his accusers to pull out a coin (so, it was their coin out of their pockets).

      His point was not to endorse the oppressive Romans’ confiscatory taxes which caused mass suffering among the Jewish poor (as is shown in the Gospels). His point was that the religious leaders who were questioning him about taxation, trying to frame him as a political revolutionary to bring Rome’s wrath upon him, were ridiculous hypocrites for profiting from those very taxes. Jesus was pointing out that they were the one’s on Rome’s dole, servants of Caesar, and so they were in no position to be questioning him on the matter.

  • Sphinx

    It is a good idea to try to find sense in what the Pope said in EG.

    But your analysis is not fair either.

    There may be some such idolatry of money or matter, but the real dangers we face right now are from [unavoidable] governments and laws that break up families and support abortion and etc. The time is not ripe, it is a century or more late, for rhetorical blasts on “capitalism”.

    Rush may be too flamboyant saying it’s “pure Communism”. But can you be taken seriously suggesting that Rush never heard of the Great Depression? or that he does not understand their significance? Even if you listen to the Pope (as I do) it would benefit everyone to consider such an insightful commentator as Rush.

    Rush is more libertarian about choice than I am. But he is far from absolute. The reason the “pro choicers” use that name is because anybody in their right mind wants to maximize choice as much as possible and moral. Your argument against choice could be mocked by the analogy that because many people use their vote in federal elections to support the worst candidate, therefore voting is bad.

    All the best.

  • Ben

    I should caveat this statement with “I’m not a Catholic”. In fact, I would only in the most hesitant of terms call myself a Christian in the denominational sense, since so much of Christianity demands deference to ideals or concepts that I don’t share.

    With that out of the way however, I thought I’d ask you a question regarding your own thoughts on Obamacare and why you feel it’s so . . contradictory to your faith.

    The goal of the law is the health of those who need it most, those who are either so sick that they cannot be insured or so poor that they are caught up in a cycle of unhealthy living-> poor health ->emergency room visit. If we can change the way our healthcare system works to accommodate those individuals why wouldn’t we take the chance?

    Perhaps our vision’s of America is radically different. Perhaps you have not worked in homeless shelters, or listened to the stories of people in the United States who have crushed beneath the wheels of the system. Perhaps you can easily dismiss the culture of violence, apathy, and desperate need that exists just inside the walls of our inner city.

    No, I don’t think the Affordable Care Act, or a million other means of aid can just fix it. I don’t believe that the most important flaws of humanity are fixable by the state or by the market. But I believe it is worth it to try. I believe that spending a couple hundred dollars more a year is worth the lives it might save.

    How could I look upon God and say that those who suffered deserved to suffer? I want to know I did everything I could for those with less than me, and I want to be able to say that my country did as well.

    At the end of your piece you mention the fallacy of equating “ability to choose” with “morality” and I couldn’t agree more. Often the moral thing to do is to give up one’s choice, whether the question is the unborn or the disenfranchised. Both deserve our moral obligation. In a similar manner I consider it a moral obligation to care for those who cannot care for themselves, to give up my choice of paying insurance so that the less fortunate can receive the care that might save them.

    Please don’t take this as antagonism, but a hopeful reaching out for discussion. I would be grateful to hear your thoughts.

    • Mike M

      “The goal of the law is the health of those who need it most, those who are either so sick that they cannot be insured or so poor that they are caught up in a cycle of unhealthy living-> poor health ->emergency room visit.”

      I don’t care what the law’s supposed goal is. I care about what it does. I fail to see anything moral about driving up the price of health insurance for young people struggling to establish themselves sufficiently to responsibly care for a family in order to provide an indirect subsidy for older, usually richer (and even, sometimes millionaire) people. And that’s what community rating does. That’s immoral.

      Mandating that I pay for someone else’s contraception is also immoral. In fact, mandating that I buy a service that I don’t want is immoral, as is forbidding me from making potentially life saving arrangements for myself on my own terms.

  • Joe

    I think this is about semantics. The word “capitalism” triggers different responses depending on who you talk to.

    The US has been more capitalist than just about all other countries in the world, and this has done more for poverty than anything else has. The “market worshipers” think of capitalism as very little government control coupled with a strong rule of law which in turn minimizes corruption. This system does allow for high performers – rich or poor – to succeed. It also punishes people for making poor choices such as getting into credit card debt or buying a house that one can’t afford

    In Latin America, the word capitalism is usually associated with US backed governments in the 70s and 80s that opened markets to the world all while having rotten enforcement of the rule of law and high levels of cronyism and nepotism. The poor were kept poor not because of capitalism, but because the government and corrupt officials controlled the flow of money along with those in the private industry that had the proper connections. In the case of Ecuador – one such leader left for Panama with literally sacks of money in bags- just straight up robbery of the government coffers. While this is known as “capitalism” by those in Latin America, you would be hard pressed to find someone like Rush classify those systems as “capitalist.” That is – if they really knew how the internals of those countries worked. Rush would probably classify this as fascism.

    In this sense – Rush and the Pope probably agree that “capitalism” in the way that those in Latin America understand it – probably was/is pretty crummy.

    • Matt

      The US version of capitalism has gone awry somewhere. Most Americans don’t understand the current levels of wealth inequality and when shown blind graphs and asked to point out what they think a fair wealth distribution should be they inadvertently point to a “socialist utopia” like Sweden. Look it up. I blame it on capitalism run amok.

  • Antonio A. Badilla

    “He was talking about Evangelii Gaudium, but he was getting his information from the “drive-by media,” whose reporting on Republicans he treats with appropriate skepticism but whose words on the Pope he swallows hook, line and sinker.” Tom, I believe you are right, so, why not write to the man and warn him that he is “interpreting” the Pope though a media that is hypocritically hostile to Pope Francis, even though they say they love him?



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