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		<title>What Is Trickle-Down Economics?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Flaherty</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When we use the term trickle-down economics, what exactly does that mean? Again, I don’t think liberal politicians have the foggiest idea—they toss it about as a soundbite, something that conservative politicians have regrettably started imitating in their recent abuse of the word “socialist.” But let’s take a crack at what trickle-down economics might mean.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The vice-presidential debate goes tonight in Kentucky, and Ohio senator Sherrod Brown gave us a sneak preview of the line of attack Vice-President Joe Biden is likely to use against Republican veep nominee—Ryan, charges Brown has “dressed up trickle-down economics and wrapped it in an Ayn Rand novel.&#8221;</p>
<p>It’s admittedly a snappy soundbite although I have absolutely no idea what Brown means, and given that Rand’s most notable novel—<em>Atlas Shrugged</em>—is long enough to make the unabridged version  <em>The Count of Monte Cristo</em> look like Cliff’s Notes, I highly doubt Brown has read it, and therefore he probably doesn’t know what his own soundbite means either.</p>
<p>Perhaps the mystery lies in this question—when we use the term trickle-down economics, what exactly does that mean? Again, I don’t think liberal politicians have the foggiest idea—they toss it about as a soundbite, something that conservative politicians have regrettably started imitating in their recent abuse of the word “socialist.” But let’s take a crack at what trickle-down economics might mean.</p>
<div id="attachment_37358" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 230px"><a href="http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/HooverJFK.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-37358" title="Trickle-down economics" src="http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/HooverJFK.jpg" alt="" width="220" height="196" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Herbert Hoover (at right) was a tax-raiser, JFK (at left) a tax-cutter. Who was the trickle-down advocate? </p></div>
<p>The theory first came into vogue during the Great Depression, and was attributed to the policies of Republican president Herbert Hoover. Although Hoover also believed in tax increases to try and balance the budget. And since this latter idea is abhorred by Ryan and his philosophical soulmates, it’s clear that attributing the term’s original intention to them is inaccurate.</p>
<p>We could also try the face value explanation—which would presumably be the belief that government policy should focus <em>exclusively</em> on benefitting the upper classes, and count on prosperity to trickle down to the rest. This is clearly the interpretation President Obama and his campaign strategists hope the American voters believe.</p>
<p>Although again, while Ryan does undeniably advance tax policies that benefit the wealthy, he doesn’t do so at the expense of the middle class. One might reasonably argue that the country can’t  afford cutting taxes across the board. One might argue that doing so would accelerate the income gap. Both would be reasonable cases to make, but it certainly doesn’t mean Ryan thinks the middle class should do nothing but sit around and wait for a few crumbs to trickle down.</p>
<p>Finally, we come to the deeper explanation, which is that political Left really believes that there are only two choices in economic policy—one is to soak the rich, play the envy card and whip up class anger, and the other is trickle-down economics. And since Ryan isn’t the former, he must naturally be the latter. This theory has a simplistic quality to it that plays well in political debate although its relationship to fact is somewhat tenuous (that’s a long-winded of saying this theory is a bunch of B.S.).</p>
<p>I don’t believe that strengthening the wealthy and the merchant class will magically solve our economic problems. There are too many people <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Business/ceo-lay-off-employees-obama-elected/story?id=17446577#.UHcgD1Fv-cs"><strong>like David Siegel</strong>,</a> the CEO of Westgate Resorts, who told his employees that any further tax increases meant he would undertake substantial layoffs—this, while he continues to install an elevator in his mansion and continue construction of the 20-plus bathrooms.</p>
<p>Siegel’s attitude over what amounts to few percentage points on taxes (the top rate would rise from 35 percent to 39 percent if Obama allows the Bush tax cuts to expire, as promised) is worthy of contempt and a good example of why Republican coziness with the economic elite meets with reasonable skepticism.</p>
<p>But at the same time, an all-out attack on the wealthy and the merchant class is completely counterproductive. They might not be the sole cause for economic growth, but all but the most hardened left-wingers would acknowledge that a vibrant investing class is at least <em>a component</em> of a successful economy.</p>
<p>Democrats who call the above paragraph trickle-down economics have neglected the history of their own party. When John F. Kennedy decided the top marginal tax rate of 91 percent was suffocating incentives for the wealthy to invest, and pushed a plan to cut it to 70 percent (it passed after his death) was he advocating trickle-down theory?</p>
<div id="attachment_37360" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/rsz_tiponeill.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-37360" title="Tip O'Neill" src="http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/rsz_tiponeill.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="107" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">When the old liberal warhorse Tip O&#39;Neill, cooperated with Ronald Reagan on tax reform, was he a born-again trickle-down man? </p></div>
<p>When a large coalition of conservative Democrats cooperated with Ronald Reagan to further take the rate down to 50 percent, were they all trickle-down acolytes?</p>
<p>And when a Democratic House, led by liberal stalwart Tip O’Neill, along with Dan Rostenkowski,  further worked with Reagan to get both a lower top rate (28 percent) and an elimination of a large chunk of tax loopholes in 1986, were they sudden converts to trickle-downism?</p>
<p>No they weren’t. What they essentially figured out was that, while strengthening the wealthy is not some magic elixir to economic problems, attacking them doesn’t get you anywhere either.</p>
<p>I would suggest a discussion along these lines would be a healthy way to use the 90 minutes allocated for Ryan and Biden to debate. Ryan could be invited to talk further on the ideas he has that are specific to the middle class. Biden could be invited to clarify his thoughts on whether there is a point where marginal tax rates become too high.</p>
<p>Although that would actually be a productive use of 90 minutes, and our political class has created a “debate” culture where each candidate will be instructed to just get through the time by reciting poll-tested answers more rigged than a WWE wrestling match. I think I’ll pass and watch the baseball postseason, which is at least unpredictable.</p>
<p><strong>Dan Flaherty is the author of <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Fulcrum-Irish-American-Novel-Dan-Flaherty/dp/0595447988/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1341498148&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Fulcrum+Dan+Flaherty">Fulcrum</a>, </em> an Irish Catholic novel set in postwar Boston with a traditional           Democratic mayoral campaign at its heart, and he is the   editor-in-chief         of <a href="http://www.thesportsnotebook.com">TheSportsNotebook.com</a></strong></p>
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		<title>France Tax Hike Lends Perspective To Debate In The U.S.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan Flaherty</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Leave it to France to put socialist economic policy on full display. The reports are out that French president Francois Holland is seeking a new budget plan that would establish a top marginal income tax rate of 75 percent, meaning after your income hits a certain level—in this case about $1.2 million in American dollars—you can count on paying three out of every four dollars earned to the government.]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave it to France to put socialist economic policy on full display. The <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/28/france-tax-rich-rate_n_1922089.html?utm_hp_ref=business"><strong>reports are out</strong></a> that French president Francois Holland is seeking a new budget plan that would establish a top marginal income tax rate of 75 percent, meaning after your income hits a certain level—in this case about $1.2 million in American dollars—you can count on paying three out of every four dollars earned to the government.</p>
<p>I suppose if nothing else, Holland’s proposal should remind us of how trivial the debates of tax policy are in the United States where the current battle is between the present top rate of 35 percent and the 39 percent rate that would exist if the Bush tax cuts were repealed. In the United States, political strategists define the differences between these figures as the difference between trickle-down economics or socialism (pick your preferred epithet).</p>
<div id="attachment_36747" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><a href="http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/rsz_reagan81.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-36747" title="Ronald Reagan " src="http://www.catholicvote.org/discuss/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/rsz_reagan81.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="154" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">When Ronald Reagan took office in 1981, the top tax rate in the United States was 70 percent. </p></div>
<p>But Holland’s proposal should serve as a reminder that it wasn’t that long ago that debates in the United States weren’t so trivial. When Ronald Reagan came to office in 1981, the top tax rate was 70 percent. Turn the clock back twenty years further and John F. Kennedy came to office when the top rate was a stunning 91 percent. JFK proposed a tax rate reduction, which would be ultimately signed into law after his death, and it triggered a brief economic boom.</p>
<p>By the time Reagan was in office the country was in a deep economic crisis, worse than today’s, because inflation was also rampant. He moved boldly, in winning passage of deep tax cuts his first year in office. Then in 1986, he pushed for and won a revolutionary tax reform victory, where the top rate came all the way down to 28 percent and came in conjunction with eliminating tax deductions heavily used by the wealthy.</p>
<p>The combination of our recent tax history, the current debates over tax fairness and the obvious admiration President Obama and most American leftists have for European social policy beg this question—how high do you want to go? It’s easy to give campaign speeches fulminating about the need of the wealthy to pay their fair share. So what, then, is an appropriate top rate? Do they think the new proposal coming out of France should be the wave of the future for the United States?</p>
<p>I don’t mean these questions as an accusation. They strike me as a perfectly reasonable ones for the president to address. If he believes what’s going on in France goes too far, let him go on the record.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take a believer in trickle-down economics to figure out that when a tax rate reaches a certain level, anyone’s willingness to work more, invest more or risk more is diminished. Reagan himself recalled in his memoirs, how during his acting days he made the conscious decision to stop making movies once his income had reached the top rate. He wasn’t going to work for nine cents on the dollar. Who would?</p>
<p>We should note that Reagan was a politically active Democrat when he was having his first encounter with tax policy. Regular readers here at the CV blog know I’m a believer in the authentic Democratic Party of the pre-1968 period, of which Reagan was a part, as obviously was JFK. But any political philosophy has an area where it misses the mark or goes too far. The traditionalist Democrats I admire lost sight of the fact that there hits a point when taxes get too high, and it took a little bit of help from JFK and a lot of help from Ronald Reagan to restore tax policy to a sane trajectory.</p>
<p>If we want to debate over a few percentage points here and there on the marginal rates like we are right now, fine. But let the president and his allies make clear they understand what’s happening in France should stay in France.</p>
<p><strong>Dan Flaherty is the author of <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Fulcrum-Irish-American-Novel-Dan-Flaherty/dp/0595447988/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1341498148&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=Fulcrum+Dan+Flaherty">Fulcrum</a>, </em> an Irish Catholic novel set in postwar Boston with a traditional            Democratic mayoral campaign at its heart, and he is the    editor-in-chief         of <a href="http://www.thesportsnotebook.com">TheSportsNotebook.com</a></strong></p>
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