What Pope Francis really said about atheists

Pope Francis raised a lot of eyebrows Wednesday after saying all people who do good works, including atheists, are going to heaven.

At least, that’s how the Huffington Post interpreted Pope Francis’ Wednesday morning homily.

Here’s what Pope Francis really said about atheists:

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The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter  that so much. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there. [Read more here]

Apparently, HuffPo doesn’t understand the difference between redemption and salvation because here’s how they reported on the pope’s remarks:

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists…

Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don’t believe will be redeemed, and the Pope’s words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works.

Reuters interpreted the pope’s comments in a similar way:

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions – or no religion – work together…

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

“Even them, everyone,” the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. “We all have the duty to do good,” he said.

“Just do good and we’ll find a meeting point,” the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest…

Francis’ reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is a marked contrast to the attitude of former Pope Benedict, who sometimes left non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.

No more than an hour went by and an inquisitive Presbyterian friend of mine emailed me with a link to the HuffPo story. “So doing good on its own is enough for salvation in Catholicism?” he asked. In response, I sent him two links that clarified the pope’s words.

The first link I sent him was this blog post by Fr. Dwight Longenecker. Here is what he wrote:

The Pope is simply affirming certain truths that any somewhat knowledgable Catholic will uphold.

First, that Christ died to redeem the whole world. We can distinguish his redemptive work from the acceptance of salvation. He redeemed the whole world. However, many will reject that saving work. In affirming the universality of Christ’s redemptive work we are not universalists. To say that he redeemed the whole world is not to conclude that all will be saved.

Secondly, the Pope is also affirming that all humans are created in God’s image and are therefore created good. Yes, created good, but that goodness is wounded by original sin.

Thirdly, he is affirming that all men and women are obliged to pursue what is beautiful, good and true. Natural virtue is possible–even obligatory, but natural virtue on its own is not sufficient for salvation. Grace is necessary to advance beyond natural virtue to bring the soul to salvation. The Pope does not say atheists being good on their own will be saved. He says they, like all men, are redeemed by Christ’s death and their good works are the starting place where we can meet with them–the implication being “meet with them in an encounter that leads eventually to faith in Christ.

The second link I sent him was this one from Catholicism.org’s Brian Kelly, who was actually writing in response to a Catholic Online article whose headline read: “Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too!”

Here is what Mr. Kelly said in response:

Pope Francis did not say that an atheist who does naturally good things can be saved if he dies an atheist. Yet that is the impression given by Catholic Online’s half truth headline…

The Pope… simply reminded the faithful that there can be, and is, goodness, or natural virtue, outside the Church. And that Christ’s death on the Cross redeemed all men. He paid the price so that every man could come to God and be saved.

If Catholic Online is insinuating that Pope Francis has “reformed” the irreformable dogma, outside the Church there is no salvation, then that is shameful and disingenuous.

At the end of the day, could Pope Francis have been a little clearer about what he was trying to say? Sure. That’s the risk of delivering off the cuff sermons. The real fault, I think, lies with the theologically-illiterate press corps, whose understanding of basic Catholic doctrine is so infinitesimal that it is increasingly unable to report on the Catholic Church without completely embarrassing itself.

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190 thoughts on “What Pope Francis really said about atheists

  1. Greg Boyle says:

    I agree with Mr. Kelly except the dogma that one must belong to the Roman Catholic Church to be saved. Self professed Vicarious Christs and Holy Father’s and Universal Sovereigns made such claims, not God in His Word.

  2. Joel Degraff says:

    Atanlair wrote feb 16 I fail to see, maybe you don’t want to see there are two destinations. You did not choose to extend you’re journey you’re soul lives for eternity and this is no club there are no dues and all are accepted don’t feel letfout grab a bible and find a church the teaches from the word of God most of the Catholic churches don’t jahova witness and Mormon (laterday saint) can be misleading

  3. Pat Ryan says:

    Bottom line; maybe we should leave the judging up to God and trust Him to be the loving, just and merciful Being, who created all of us and knows our hearts. If you believe in a God who is worthy of our trust, than these discussions often do more harm than good.
    We can’t have faith, without trusting God.
    While we were created imperfect, with struggles and unlike Christ, who even though He was perfect, still struggled, we can only do our best and leave the rest to Our Creator.
    Whenever someone truly believes he is capable of being perfect, he is truly lacking humility and so can never be perfect.

  4. Rudey says:

    I don’t believe the fault of press reporting of Pope Francis is solely theological-illiteracy, but is very purposeful. They seek to divide Catholics and the Protestant denominations that aren’t outright Catholic haters, and also try to turn some members of the Catholic Church against each other and have them lose confidence in the Pope.

    The English text I recently saw him read in the Philippines notwithstanding, the present Pope unlike his immediate two predecessors does not speak English. Whenever you see a news story about what Pope Francis said today, you need to go to a proper Vatican news source to find out what he really said. That being said, “The National Catholic Reporter” is not a source anyone should ever use (look up the difference between apostolate and apostasy for the reason.)

  5. Jen says:

    2 Thessalonians 1:8
    He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. Meaning atheist will not enter heaven and be punished.

  6. atanliar says:

    If the road from here to Heaven is one-way, I fail to see how anyone can miss the Final Destination, unless he (or she) chooses to extend his journey indefinitely enjoying his sight-seeing. Anyway, I refuse to believe that God is as petty as some of those who think Heaven is their monopoly. And what is so great to be in the company of those so-called believers whose hands were once stained with the blood of their victims if such characters are also to be allowed into Heaven just because they are members of the Believers’ Club !

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