What Pope Francis really said about atheists

Pope Francis raised a lot of eyebrows Wednesday after saying all people who do good works, including atheists, are going to heaven.

At least, that’s how the Huffington Post interpreted Pope Francis’ Wednesday morning homily.

Here’s what Pope Francis really said about atheists:

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The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter  that so much. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there. [Read more here]

Apparently, HuffPo doesn’t understand the difference between redemption and salvation because here’s how they reported on the pope’s remarks:

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists…

Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don’t believe will be redeemed, and the Pope’s words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works.

Reuters interpreted the pope’s comments in a similar way:

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions – or no religion – work together…

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

“Even them, everyone,” the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. “We all have the duty to do good,” he said.

“Just do good and we’ll find a meeting point,” the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest…

Francis’ reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is a marked contrast to the attitude of former Pope Benedict, who sometimes left non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.

No more than an hour went by and an inquisitive Presbyterian friend of mine emailed me with a link to the HuffPo story. “So doing good on its own is enough for salvation in Catholicism?” he asked. In response, I sent him two links that clarified the pope’s words.

The first link I sent him was this blog post by Fr. Dwight Longenecker. Here is what he wrote:

The Pope is simply affirming certain truths that any somewhat knowledgable Catholic will uphold.

First, that Christ died to redeem the whole world. We can distinguish his redemptive work from the acceptance of salvation. He redeemed the whole world. However, many will reject that saving work. In affirming the universality of Christ’s redemptive work we are not universalists. To say that he redeemed the whole world is not to conclude that all will be saved.

Secondly, the Pope is also affirming that all humans are created in God’s image and are therefore created good. Yes, created good, but that goodness is wounded by original sin.

Thirdly, he is affirming that all men and women are obliged to pursue what is beautiful, good and true. Natural virtue is possible–even obligatory, but natural virtue on its own is not sufficient for salvation. Grace is necessary to advance beyond natural virtue to bring the soul to salvation. The Pope does not say atheists being good on their own will be saved. He says they, like all men, are redeemed by Christ’s death and their good works are the starting place where we can meet with them–the implication being “meet with them in an encounter that leads eventually to faith in Christ.

The second link I sent him was this one from Catholicism.org’s Brian Kelly, who was actually writing in response to a Catholic Online article whose headline read: “Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too!”

Here is what Mr. Kelly said in response:

Pope Francis did not say that an atheist who does naturally good things can be saved if he dies an atheist. Yet that is the impression given by Catholic Online’s half truth headline…

The Pope… simply reminded the faithful that there can be, and is, goodness, or natural virtue, outside the Church. And that Christ’s death on the Cross redeemed all men. He paid the price so that every man could come to God and be saved.

If Catholic Online is insinuating that Pope Francis has “reformed” the irreformable dogma, outside the Church there is no salvation, then that is shameful and disingenuous.

At the end of the day, could Pope Francis have been a little clearer about what he was trying to say? Sure. That’s the risk of delivering off the cuff sermons. The real fault, I think, lies with the theologically-illiterate press corps, whose understanding of basic Catholic doctrine is so infinitesimal that it is increasingly unable to report on the Catholic Church without completely embarrassing itself.

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152 thoughts on “What Pope Francis really said about atheists

  1. Terrence says:

    The problem with speech is using the word “has”, as in The Lord ‘has’ redeemed all of us. I think that confuses the issue has it suggests the redemption from death is completed in everyone. Obviously that is not he meant, since eternal death is very real for some people, the terms “has” and “everyone” shows that the sentence is not well put together.
    We should say, “The Lord’s redemption is for everyone”. That makes more sense.

  2. Mike says:

    Apparently Catholics don’t understand salvation either because my Bible says Jesus said HE is the way. The Pope cannot get you into heaven, people!

  3. Gayla Tregre says:

    Redemption means salvation. To be redeemed is to be saved. If you are in doubt, look up in a dictionary the word redemption. It does not say could be saved or could be delivered from sin, it says: deliverance from sin, salvation. An atheist can convert and be redeemed(saved), but he cannot remain an atheist. Also, good works will not save us, but as born again christians, we should want to do good works.

  4. Dean says:

    We come into relationship with God with our initial faith in Christ but it is heretical to say we are saved by grace alone after initial faith since Jesus says on more than one occasion to those who believe in Him to go and sin no more and also to be perfect just as His Father is perfect. And of course James made things perfectly clear that faith without works is dead just as the body is dead without the spirit.

    1. Terrence says:

      Hi @Dean. Actually it is more heretical to say that we are not saved by grace alone. To say that is to mean that we can achieve salvation by what we do. We cannot be saved accept by grace. By grace we now have faith in Christ. Through faith we bear the fruits of the spirit, works that are the evidence of the faith we have in Christ, given by grace. So hence, we are saved by grace and grace alone.

  5. Dillon Phillips says:

    Everyone Has A Shot A Salvation. It’s A Gift Given Freely From God TO Those Who Will Accept The Lord Into Their Lives.

  6. Dillon Phillips says:

    I’m Not Catholic. I’m A Born Again Believer In Jesus Christ. Like Paul Tells Us I Won’t Separate myself Into A Separate Group. I Personally Don’t Find Fault With The Popes Statement. I’m Very Much Against Universalism, But I Am Very For The Grace Of God That We All Need. We Cannot Be Saved By Works. We Cannot Be Saved By Anything But God’s Grace.We Are Not Saved By What We Do Or Our Works, Buy We Are Saved Solely On Jesus Blood And His Righteousness Alone.

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