What Pope Francis really said about atheists


Pope Francis raised a lot of eyebrows Wednesday after saying all people who do good works, including atheists, are going to heaven.

At least, that’s how the Huffington Post interpreted Pope Francis’ Wednesday morning homily.

Here’s what Pope Francis really said about atheists:

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The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter  that so much. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there. [Read more here]

Apparently, HuffPo doesn’t understand the difference between redemption and salvation because here’s how they reported on the pope’s remarks:

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists…

Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don’t believe will be redeemed, and the Pope’s words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works.

Reuters interpreted the pope’s comments in a similar way:

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions – or no religion – work together…

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

“Even them, everyone,” the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. “We all have the duty to do good,” he said.

“Just do good and we’ll find a meeting point,” the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest…

Francis’ reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is a marked contrast to the attitude of former Pope Benedict, who sometimes left non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.

No more than an hour went by and an inquisitive Presbyterian friend of mine emailed me with a link to the HuffPo story. “So doing good on its own is enough for salvation in Catholicism?” he asked. In response, I sent him two links that clarified the pope’s words.

The first link I sent him was this blog post by Fr. Dwight Longenecker. Here is what he wrote:

The Pope is simply affirming certain truths that any somewhat knowledgable Catholic will uphold.

First, that Christ died to redeem the whole world. We can distinguish his redemptive work from the acceptance of salvation. He redeemed the whole world. However, many will reject that saving work. In affirming the universality of Christ’s redemptive work we are not universalists. To say that he redeemed the whole world is not to conclude that all will be saved.

Secondly, the Pope is also affirming that all humans are created in God’s image and are therefore created good. Yes, created good, but that goodness is wounded by original sin.

Thirdly, he is affirming that all men and women are obliged to pursue what is beautiful, good and true. Natural virtue is possible–even obligatory, but natural virtue on its own is not sufficient for salvation. Grace is necessary to advance beyond natural virtue to bring the soul to salvation. The Pope does not say atheists being good on their own will be saved. He says they, like all men, are redeemed by Christ’s death and their good works are the starting place where we can meet with them–the implication being “meet with them in an encounter that leads eventually to faith in Christ.

The second link I sent him was this one from Catholicism.org’s Brian Kelly, who was actually writing in response to a Catholic Online article whose headline read: “Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too!”

Here is what Mr. Kelly said in response:

Pope Francis did not say that an atheist who does naturally good things can be saved if he dies an atheist. Yet that is the impression given by Catholic Online’s half truth headline…

The Pope… simply reminded the faithful that there can be, and is, goodness, or natural virtue, outside the Church. And that Christ’s death on the Cross redeemed all men. He paid the price so that every man could come to God and be saved.

If Catholic Online is insinuating that Pope Francis has “reformed” the irreformable dogma, outside the Church there is no salvation, then that is shameful and disingenuous.

At the end of the day, could Pope Francis have been a little clearer about what he was trying to say? Sure. That’s the risk of delivering off the cuff sermons. The real fault, I think, lies with the theologically-illiterate press corps, whose understanding of basic Catholic doctrine is so infinitesimal that it is increasingly unable to report on the Catholic Church without completely embarrassing itself.

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Stephen Kokx is a freelance writer and adjunct professor of political science living in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He has previously worked for the Archdiocese of Chicago's Office for Peace and Justice. His writing on religion, politics and Catholic social teaching has appeared in a number of outlets, including Crisis Magazine, The American Thinker and his hometown paper The Grand Rapids Press. He is a member of the Fellowship of Catholic Scholars and the Society of Catholic Social Scientists, and is a graduate of Aquinas College and Loyola University Chicago. Follow Stephen on twitter @StephenKokx


  1. John Provenzale on

    I don’t believe that this pope or the Catholic Church understand what salvation is and how it is obtained. Martin Luther realized it centuries ago and split from the church but today’s Catholics are still centuries behind!

    • Martin Luther was a heretic monk who hated Jews. If Christ established ONE CHURCH then explain to me why there are over 40,000 Protestant denominations ALL arguing among themselves over Holy Scripture interpretation? Christ established just ONE CHURCH…the Holy Catholic Church who brought the Holy Bible to the World! Protestants are lost souls still trying to find the truth. Christ said that to have Eternal Life we must “eat His flesh and drink His blood.” Catholics receive Christ in the Holy Eucharist at holy Mass. Protestants (you) reject the Holy Eucharist. I think it is you who are clueless concerning salvation. By the way, Protestants have NO authority to interpret Holy Scripture.

  2. May the God of your understanding bless your soul. When we seperate and judge others, are we not just hypocrites?? LOVE, GRACE AND SERVICE keeps me grateful and tolerant of others. Actions speak louder than words, follow the teachings of Christ with action not with some clever words and a bit of worship, that was what i was told to try, and my life has become more amazing that i could have ever imagined !!! Peace.

  3. As a Catholic who tries to live out the Faith, I’m utterly fed up with the Pope Francis Two-Step. Over and over, Francis blurts out a half-truth that confuses or deceives millions, and never clarifies himself. Catholic writers then step forward to chide those who are justly horrified, and try to tell us that what Francis “really meant” was fully in line with Catholic doctrine. But how do they know? Do they begin by assuming that Francis’ ideas are totally orthodox, and that there must be an explanation that excuses his contrary or incomplete statement? If so, they assume what they set out to prove, and that’s nonsense.

    Usually, we take a person’s off-the-cuff remarks to give us more reliable evidence of their real thoughts than a prepared statement in which they’ve been able to choose their words carefully. For example, with politicians we heavily discount their TelePrompTer-guided speeches, and look to their unguarded words caught on “hot mikes” to tell us what’s really in their hearts. It should be the same with Francis. on that basis, I conclude that He really thinks that it’s possible for everyone to earn salvation with good works even while denying God and rejecting the need to accept redemption. That’s an old, old heresy.

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