What Pope Francis really said about atheists

Pope Francis raised a lot of eyebrows Wednesday after saying all people who do good works, including atheists, are going to heaven.

At least, that’s how the Huffington Post interpreted Pope Francis’ Wednesday morning homily.

Here’s what Pope Francis really said about atheists:

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The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone! And this Blood makes us children of God of the first class! We are created children in the likeness of God and the Blood of Christ has redeemed us all! And we all have a duty to do good. And this commandment for everyone to do good, I think, is a beautiful path towards peace. If we, each doing our own part, do good to others, if we meet there, doing good, and we go slowly, gently, little by little, we will make that culture of encounter  that so much. We must meet one another doing good. ‘But I don’t believe, Father, I am an atheist!’ But do good: we will meet one another there. [Read more here]

Apparently, HuffPo doesn’t understand the difference between redemption and salvation because here’s how they reported on the pope’s remarks:

Pope Francis rocked some religious and atheist minds today when he declared that everyone was redeemed through Jesus, including atheists…

Of course, not all Christians believe that those who don’t believe will be redeemed, and the Pope’s words may spark memories of the deep divisions from the Protestant reformation over the belief in redemption through grace versus redemption through works.

Reuters interpreted the pope’s comments in a similar way:

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis said on Wednesday in his latest urging that people of all religions – or no religion – work together…

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

“Even them, everyone,” the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. “We all have the duty to do good,” he said.

“Just do good and we’ll find a meeting point,” the pope said in a hypothetical conversation in which someone told a priest…

Francis’ reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is a marked contrast to the attitude of former Pope Benedict, who sometimes left non-Catholics feeling that he saw them as second-class believers.

No more than an hour went by and an inquisitive Presbyterian friend of mine emailed me with a link to the HuffPo story. “So doing good on its own is enough for salvation in Catholicism?” he asked. In response, I sent him two links that clarified the pope’s words.

The first link I sent him was this blog post by Fr. Dwight Longenecker. Here is what he wrote:

The Pope is simply affirming certain truths that any somewhat knowledgable Catholic will uphold.

First, that Christ died to redeem the whole world. We can distinguish his redemptive work from the acceptance of salvation. He redeemed the whole world. However, many will reject that saving work. In affirming the universality of Christ’s redemptive work we are not universalists. To say that he redeemed the whole world is not to conclude that all will be saved.

Secondly, the Pope is also affirming that all humans are created in God’s image and are therefore created good. Yes, created good, but that goodness is wounded by original sin.

Thirdly, he is affirming that all men and women are obliged to pursue what is beautiful, good and true. Natural virtue is possible–even obligatory, but natural virtue on its own is not sufficient for salvation. Grace is necessary to advance beyond natural virtue to bring the soul to salvation. The Pope does not say atheists being good on their own will be saved. He says they, like all men, are redeemed by Christ’s death and their good works are the starting place where we can meet with them–the implication being “meet with them in an encounter that leads eventually to faith in Christ.

The second link I sent him was this one from Catholicism.org’s Brian Kelly, who was actually writing in response to a Catholic Online article whose headline read: “Pope Francis says atheists can do good and go to heaven too!”

Here is what Mr. Kelly said in response:

Pope Francis did not say that an atheist who does naturally good things can be saved if he dies an atheist. Yet that is the impression given by Catholic Online’s half truth headline…

The Pope… simply reminded the faithful that there can be, and is, goodness, or natural virtue, outside the Church. And that Christ’s death on the Cross redeemed all men. He paid the price so that every man could come to God and be saved.

If Catholic Online is insinuating that Pope Francis has “reformed” the irreformable dogma, outside the Church there is no salvation, then that is shameful and disingenuous.

At the end of the day, could Pope Francis have been a little clearer about what he was trying to say? Sure. That’s the risk of delivering off the cuff sermons. The real fault, I think, lies with the theologically-illiterate press corps, whose understanding of basic Catholic doctrine is so infinitesimal that it is increasingly unable to report on the Catholic Church without completely embarrassing itself.

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199 thoughts on “What Pope Francis really said about atheists

  1. Mark Leslie says:

    I think everyone is missing the point of atheism they do good because they are good not just to be aloud to join the deluded club in the hell whole some call heaven.
    To argue that anyone who doesn’t embrace the false prophets can still be welcome in the imagined heaven is very sad to see.
    I am an antitheist and have no desire what so ever to embrace such nonsense but believer’s banning anyone from their club just shows that they are truly not nice people at heart and would only do good for self centered reasons.

  2. maureen says:

    so he is saying christ died and redeemed all mankind kind from nothing, so we could be good. If he didn’t mean original sin then what? The man should read the book and not rewrite it.

  3. DAVID LANDSBERGEN says:

    Francis is clearly an imposter like all the Vat II “popes” A Christian has first of all to be baptized and perfect when death comes so most will need to go to purgatory as The Church teaches . Then Heaven is rewarded . These popes have completely ignored the teaching of the Catholic Church Just look it up Thanks JMJ

  4. Mike Mead says:

    This article is hilarious! is it not totally clear that the BASIC message he was trying to purvey was “good people are good people no matter what”? Why are you so desperately trying to exclude people from the definition of “good”? Why, ever, would a student of Christ try to exclude anyone?

  5. Jane Cormier says:

    Some of the popes comments muddy the truth for both Catholics and atheists . Jesus always spoke clearly, He never needed someone else to interpret what he really said. It seems the pope does not speak clearly and often sends someone to explain what he really said. Perhaps the truth as taught by Christ is no longer sufficient for this modern pope. Jesus went to the cross for His way of teaching the truth. The Pope is loved and his face is on magazine covers. Jesus was hated by the world ,the pope is loved by the world. think about this .

  6. InChristAlone says:

    I would like to comment in the defense made by Fr. Dwight on doing good works that eventually will lead to faith in Christ. I believe most of the people who became a christian came from a realization of their sin and condition of a need of a Saviour. So if a atheist can show good works, the more that person that person will have difficulty of in need of a Saviour. See Luke 5:31

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